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      11-28-2024, 09:02 AM   #353
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Hi Guys , so I installed the Dorch 2.5 HPFP today and did a few logs.

Im not sure if its working properly , after reading this post I did a full flash.

Logs Stage 2+ E30

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6748...137f00e6e0bade

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6748...137f00e6e0badf

Feels pretty strong... no errors no misfires. I reckon the LPFP is struggling now.

Also I think the boost is to high for the setup as its pulling timing now... maybe 19psi max is all its got. (Need that Pure600)

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What ethanol % are you running? And, what’s your ignition setup?
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What ethanol % are you running? And, what’s your ignition setup?
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e30 / oem
I’d start with E40-50 and see if the timing cleans up. That map always did better with E45ish. Doesn't have to be exact, easiest way to achieve that here is equal gallons of pump gas, equal gallons of E85.

Then, we’ll look towards your plugs & coils, but OEM should be fine if they have 15k miles or less on them.
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Yeah I do find the more E the better the timing is. I also sent the logs to Dorch and he recommended testings the Dorch 1 HPFP setting , see log attached , I also knocked a few psi of boost out while testing .. now set to 19psi.

DORCH Response and solution to the problem.
"Please reflash using the “Dorch Stage 1” HPFP settings and send over a log. You certainly don’t have any mechanical issues, but the software could have better control. This is mainly due to the particular tune that you’re using which is targeting lower rail pressure than what the pump is typically calibrated for. The Stage 1 setting may be better, but more importantly will give us a better picture of the calibration "

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=674a...0af11c75bca0cf
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=674a...0af11c75bca0d0

I do feel that the HPFP data looks Great now and Dorch agreed ! Its pretty quick now... slight tweak to E mixture now I can get the flow with the new Dorch HPFP E42 !!

" This log looks great, just stick with this setting since it overrides some of the things that were causing issues on your tune file. This is not relevant to boost or fueling capacity, etc. so no need to mess with anything else. This is simply a calibration thing. This log is good so stick with that for the OTS maps! Let us know if you need anything else "

How good is Dorch Customer service !!

Not sure what PTF are doing as they couldn't give me any productive advise or solutions and i do find there attention to detail lacking as are there calibrations profiles , for an OTS tune they are ok i guess but the more I deal with them the more they are giving me a reason to pay for a real tune and setup via Bend calibration. Once the pure 600 goes on Im 100% moving to Bend.



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I’d start with E40-50 and see if the timing cleans up. That map always did better with E45ish. Doesn't have to be exact, easiest way to achieve that here is equal gallons of pump gas, equal gallons of E85.

Then, we’ll look towards your plugs & coils, but OEM should be fine if they have 15k miles or less on them.

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bonjour,

Je vous écris en Francais ce jour, j'aimerai connaitre le gain de puissance sur une M2 N55 avec :

- IC Wagner Evo 2
- DP Wagner
- Pompe HP B58
- Dump valve

J'aimerai avoir une puissance correcte en ST2 pour ne pas abimer mon turbo d'origine et fragiliser les pièces.
BM3 annonce un gain de 36%, et cela fait 480 cv... Je trouve cela énorme sur un turbo d'origine.

Est-ce fiable ?
Dois-je me fier au chiffres donné par BM3 ?
Ne vaut-il pas mieux faire une carto chez un pro ?

Merci de votre aide,
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Good morning,

I am writing to you today, I would like to know the power gain on an M2 N55 with:

- IC Wagner Evo 2
- D.P. Wagner
- HP B58 pump
- Dump valve

I would like to have correct power in ST2 so as not to damage my original turbo and weaken the parts.
BM3 announces a gain of 36%, and that's 480 hp... I find that enormous on an original turbo.

Is it reliable?
Should I trust the figures given by BM3?
Isn't it better to get a map from a professional?

Thank you for your help,
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      12-09-2024, 08:38 AM   #359
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Good morning,

I am writing to you today, I would like to know the power gain on an M2 N55 with:

- IC Wagner Evo 2
- D.P. Wagner
- HP B58 pump
- Dump valve

I would like to have correct power in ST2 so as not to damage my original turbo and weaken the parts.
BM3 announces a gain of 36%, and that's 480 hp... I find that enormous on an original turbo.

Is it reliable?
Should I trust the figures given by BM3?
Isn't it better to get a map from a professional?

Thank you for your help,
If you can afford a custom calibration, it will make more power than BM3 and be tailored to your specific car and mods. I've seen 450+/- BHP claimed.
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      12-09-2024, 10:21 AM   #360
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If you can afford a custom calibration, it will make more power than BM3 and be tailored to your specific car and mods. I've seen 450+/- BHP claimed.

I would just like to know if the figures given by BM3 are real.

And knowing that this is reliable for our N55 and that the turbo will not go through the hood
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I would just like to know if the figures given by BM3 are real.

And knowing that this is reliable for our N55 and that the turbo will not go through the hood
without E85, there I don't think you're hitting 480BHP. I do think it's reliable though.
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without E85, there I don't think you're hitting 480BHP. I do think it's reliable though.


so with the st2 and the parts I have I should expect around 440 hp?

In fact I can't figure out the loss between the BM3 data and the real figures.
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so with the st2 and the parts I have I should expect around 440 hp?

In fact I can't figure out the loss between the BM3 data and the real figures.
I Believe 440HP is the standard stage 2 tune, and BM3 is claiming another 40hp for the stage 2+? I don't know if that's true but I know you will make more power.

The only way to know for sure is to dyno the car before and after.
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I Believe 440HP is the standard stage 2 tune, and BM3 is claiming another 40hp for the stage 2+? I don't know if that's true but I know you will make more power.

The only way to know for sure is to dyno the car before and after.

allright, thank you.

What I just want is not to damage my original turbo and break my engine
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6.90s 100-200kph!

Quick update, got a little better time on the 100-200kph!

And, here’s my first (and last!) 60-130mph run—just no good spots up here to do it. Guessing the 7’s are possible.

Again, full weight, non-stripped, daily driven M2 w/ DCT. Power mods include:

-Akrapovic rear exhaust & Fabspeed 200-cell DP
-TTE460 turbo w/ MST v2 inlet
-BM3 Stg 2+++ Multimap (~3psi higher than the OTS)
-Dorch Stg 2.5 HPFP
-E55 fuel with Bend flexfuel filter kit
-NGK’s gapped to PTF spec, Eldor coils
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Awesome mate !! Nice and cool Ambient 30F On the Gold Coast Australia today its 95% humidity and 90F Ambient
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Quick update, got a little better time on the 100-200kph!

And, here’s my first (and last!) 60-130mph run—just no good spots up here to do it. Guessing the 7’s are possible.

Again, full weight, non-stripped, daily driven M2 w/ DCT. Power mods include:

-Akrapovic rear exhaust & Fabspeed 200-cell DP
-TTE460 turbo w/ MST v2 inlet
-BM3 Stg 2+++ Multimap (~3psi higher than the OTS)
-Dorch Stg 2.5 HPFP
-E55 fuel with Bend flexfuel filter kit
-NGK’s gapped to PTF spec, Eldor coils
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Is this a 3rd,4th and 5th or just 4th and 5th ?
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Quick update, got a little better time on the 100-200kph!

And, here’s my first (and last!) 60-130mph run—just no good spots up here to do it. Guessing the 7’s are possible.

Again, full weight, non-stripped, daily driven M2 w/ DCT. Power mods include:

-Akrapovic rear exhaust & Fabspeed 200-cell DP
-TTE460 turbo w/ MST v2 inlet
-BM3 Stg 2+++ Multimap (~3psi higher than the OTS)
-Dorch Stg 2.5 HPFP
-E55 fuel with Bend flexfuel filter kit
-NGK’s gapped to PTF spec, Eldor coils
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Is this a 3rd,4th and 5th or just 4th and 5th ?
3, 4, 5 with the DCT.
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Hmm, a 200cel catalyst and MST V2 inlet. Interesting
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Hmm, a 200cel catalyst and MST V2 inlet. Interesting
Have had the MST v2 for >3-years. Got the 200-cell for more volume.
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Have had the MST v2 for >3-years. Got the 200-cell for more volume.
More volume and nothing to do with more power/wgdc? I think your more positive results speak for themselves, I'm happy for you.
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More volume and nothing to do with more power/wgdc? I think your more positive results speak for themselves.
Was the extra 0.1s in 100-200 from colder temps, more negative road slope, a better run/traction, less gas in the fuel tank, a tailwind vs a headwind, the 200 vs 300-cell?

IDK, but it was certainly more than than the one thing you’re fixated on.
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Was the extra 0.1s in 100-200 from colder temps, more negative road slope, a better run/traction, less gas in the fuel tank, a tailwind vs a headwind, the 200 vs 300-cell?

IDK, but it was certainly more than than the one thing you’re fixated on.
What do the logs say about the WGDC?
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What do the logs say about the WGDC?
IDK. Why don’t you go buy both pipes, log, and come back and tell us?
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