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Think of how many posts said "why spend that on a M2CS when I can get an M4CS for not that much more"
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However, if equivalently equipped, I would still offer that some people will chose the M2 as opposed to the M4 in terms of driving dynamics and agility. And in those two examples, there would still be a price gap that is not inconsequential. I keep going back to Porsche because I previously spent so much time on their configurator. You can easily spec a S over the price of a GTS or turbo. However, some may still prefer the S for a variety of reasons.
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Blind spot monitoring seems more like cost cutting rather than price discrimination. I can’t imagine anyone who is considering an M2 is going to spring for an M4 just to get the blind spot monitoring. They might as well get a 330i for a lot cheaper if that’s the feature that drives their purchase decision. Not to mention the fact that said consumer may skip the brand altogether if they can’t get the feature they want. This was probably deemed low risk given the M2 demographic, so IMO, it was really about cost cutting.
The pricing of the M2CS, however, seems to be a prime example of price discrimination. It costs BMW about the same to produce a CS, but it’s a mechanism to give people who are willing to pay more exactly that opportunity. It’s the whole reason behind introducing the Base, Competition, CS, CSL hierarchy. The improvements are often marginal, but it’s a great way for BMW to squeeze as much money as possible out of each and every buyer, without much risk of the consumer taking their business to another brand. Bravo, BMW, bravo!! |
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@Thescout13 I am not taking either of your comments in absolute terms, but maybe I'm having some trouble articulating my thoughts.
Regardless, I think it was an informative discussion. Still pains me to have to wait for '21 to be available for order and then delivery. As some of you may know, my car journey started back in January with many close calls. Can't believe it will take me ~9+ months to finally get into my car. In the meantime, I hope the lucky MY19/20 owners will continue to tease us future owners with their incredible stories and driving adventures. Summer driving season is practically here!
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That makes sense, but as just one car enthusiast who might represent an outlier in terms of the consumer mindset . . . my thoughts have been, 'why get an M2CS when I can get the M2C for so much less?' I have always said, BMW does not decide what is special, consumers decide what is special. However, that comes from the perspective of a car enthusiast, not someone looking to be an 'exclusive' owner of something BMW stamps as a 'limited edition.' I really do not think I am an outlier in this M2C vs M2CS debate, rather, the M2C is simply something quite special. ///AVM |
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I truly did not set out to insult the Genius that assisted me, nor you or any Genius. I was simply trying to rectify an inconsistency in information provided to me regarding blind spot monitoring. While it does seems reasonable to expect a designated BMW Genius knows more about a vehicle than the new/prospective owner, it is really hard to keep up with enthusiasts on this forum. Also, to be fair, even among the enthusiasts, focus and corresponding knowledge is often placed with one, or two models - whereas the Genius responsible for the entire BMW lineup. I have zero ill-regard for the Genius who assisted me. In fact, she was very helpful. She simply did not know - or forgot - the lights on the M2C side mirrors were non-functional with regard to blind spot monitoring found on the M3/4. ///AVM |
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I'm sure there are some enthusiast geniuses who know a lot about the cars, but I have to think the majority are sales reps asked to pass the time. I was told I'd have a genius contact me within a week of purchase and set up an appointment. No one did. Now I've driven/owned many BMWs so there ain't a lot you could teach me.
Anyway I called and got in touch with one at my dealer who was more than eager to set up an appointment, but after talking to him for a few minutes on the phone, I figured it would be a massive waste of time. I could tell he knew nothing more that I did about the M2, perhaps less. Also, this genius hardly sounded eager, or like a genius, so I couldn't fathom wasting time with him in my car, so I passed. |
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I hear you . . . for enthusiasts such as yourself who frequent this forum, I would expect very little by way of enlightenment from the assigned Genius. This forum is like a graduate class in all things BMW. I cannot imagine a better information resource exists anywhere on the topics we love to discuss. ///AVM |
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its python green. launch color for gts 4.0
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Thank you Karussell
Paint colors are always hard to distinguish online, as lighting has a tremendous impact on appearance. At any rate, the python green looks awesome on the 718 in any lighting I have yet to observe it online. ///AVM |
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Fender Extension confirmed
Confirmed that euro models manufactured from 1st march have the plastic fender extensions
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Thank you for the updated information. I know others have expressed their dislike for the fender flares. Personally, I do not find the flares obtrusive, but question the utility with where they are placed on the fender. Overall, their presence would not bother me. ///AVM |
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