Unofficial USA BMW M2 CS Registry (specs of 568 US-spec F87 M2 CS cars)

arciga18 · 01-08-2021, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apex Hitter

Very cool work! The only problem is that I don't have a CS. Will you be able to do something similar to this for just the M2C model? Once their production ends as well. I would love to know how many were produced in my exact spec...

Too much work for the OP. (Sorry for being honest) .

Hedoniste · 01-08-2021, 04:09 PM

Amazing work congrats ! Amazing the rate of manual gearboxes... sure it will be a different story in Europe.

GimmeanM · 01-08-2021, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apex Hitter

Very cool work! The only problem is that I don't have a CS. Will you be able to do something similar to this for just the M2C model? Once their production ends as well. I would love to know how many were produced in my exact spec...

Quote:

Originally Posted by arciga18

Too much work for the OP. (Sorry for being honest) .

Sorry, I only did this for the M2 CS. I had to capture the data (chassis number, center location, priority, color, options, production date, etc) of each car as it came out of the factory, so no going back to get M2C data. Also, 568 was enough to collect anyway, many many more M2C's made than that.

GimmeanM · 01-08-2021, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedoniste

Amazing work congrats ! Amazing the rate of manual gearboxes... sure it will be a different story in Europa.

Yes, It was interesting to watch as I was collecting the data. The US keeping the manual transmission alive! It was also interesting to watch the CCB take rate. With most of the customer ordered cars being produced in the beginning the take rate was about 35%. As production continued that number fell to 23%.

ND40oz · 01-08-2021, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GimmeanM

Yes, It was interesting to watch as I was collecting the data. The US keeping the manual transmission alive! It was also interesting to watch the CCB take rate. With most of the customer ordered cars being produced in the beginning the take rate was about 35%. As production continued that number fell to 23%.

Yeah, looks like very few non-sold dealer orders opted for the CCBs. I'm guessing they just thought they were a harder sell after the fact.

Good work man!

ScullyD · 01-08-2021, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ND40oz

Yeah, looks like very few non-sold dealer orders opted for the CCBs. I'm guessing they just thought they were a harder sell after the fact.

Good work man!

I still think the CCBs are going to be a harder sell on the used market. Its a $22k brake job. Thats a lot of coin. There might be a super low mileage example that gets big money in years to come that has the CCBs.

MomoM3 · 01-08-2021, 04:38 PM

Thank you so much for posting this GimmeanM!!!! Fantastic data - I did not expect this level of detail. Amazing.

My build is Misano Blue, ZMT, 2NH, Black wheels... pretty high count @ 39 units all things considered! Also I am very surprised the take-rate for gold vs black wheels to be pretty even! Would have thought gold would win by far...

Moflow · 01-08-2021, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arciga18

Too much work for the OP. (Sorry for being honest) .

Yeah, i'd expect around 10K M2 Comp units to be sold in the U.S. That's orders of magnitude more than the 500+ CS units that made it stateside. Us comp owners will simply have to wait until BMW releases numbers (likely later in the year.)

Cool to see this breakdown. Pretty amazing that there is currently a car on sale in the U.S. with a 70 percent take rate on the M/T! Makes sense for the style of car, but its still interesting.

Artemis · 01-08-2021, 05:09 PM

GimmeanM, added to your first post of this thread:

EDIT: Codes:

Colors:
- AW = Alpine White (300)
- BSM = Black Sapphire Metallic (475)
- HS = Hockenheim Silver Metallic (C33)
- MB = Misano Blue Metallic (C1D)
Transmission:
- ZMT = 6-speed Manual Transmission (6MT)
- 2MK = M-DCT = M Dual Clutch Transmission (M-DCT)
Brakes:
- 2NH = M Sport Brakes (steel) (red-colored)
- 2NK = M-CCB = M Carbon Ceramic Brakes (gold-colored)
Wheels:
- Black = Jet Black 763M wheels
- Gold = Matt Gold 763M wheels
Tires:
- PSS = Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires
- Cup2 = Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires

arciga18 · 01-08-2021, 05:46 PM

I don't know what websites people use to decode Vins.

All of my go to websites are down or I get blocked after 1 search.
Even the sketchy websites are down.

BUT!!!!

Now i can use this spreadsheet to just look at options without having to reach out to sales.

Thank you GimmeanM

ScullyD · 01-08-2021, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moflow

Quote:

Originally Posted by arciga18

Too much work for the OP. (Sorry for being honest) .

Yeah, i'd expect around 10K M2 Comp units to be sold in the U.S. That's orders of magnitude more than the 500+ CS units that made it stateside. Us comp owners will simply have to wait until BMW releases numbers (likely later in the year.)

Cool to see this breakdown. Pretty amazing that there is currently a car on sale in the U.S. with a 70 percent take rate on the M/T! Makes sense for the style of car, but its still interesting.

10k comp units per year, or in total across 2019, 2020, 2021?

NVMYCS · 01-08-2021, 06:30 PM

Will you be adding military sales cars to the list in the future?

medphysdave · 01-08-2021, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NVMYCS

Will you be adding military sales cars to the list in the future?

I don't think there is a way to get that data at this point. Maybe add the US military sales to the overall total, but it would mess with all the statistics. This thread is about to hit the front page.

slicer · 01-08-2021, 07:42 PM

Great info, thanks a ton for putting this together

Bimmed Out · 01-08-2021, 08:05 PM

Less than 400 6MT’s to the USA...amazing.

Thank you, GimmeanM, you are appreciated!

cptJLPicard · 01-08-2021, 08:19 PM

Awesome work! How can we get the Canadian numbers?

CarJunkie · 01-08-2021, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmed Out

Less than 400 6MT’s to the USA...amazing.

Thank you, GimmeanM, you are appreciated!

And even fewer DCT's....I will have the rarer gem!

Artemis · 01-08-2021, 08:45 PM

GimmeanM, added to your first post of this thread: additional graphs based on your figures (generated with this easy tool).

Name: M2_CS_USA_Graphs_1.jpg
Views: 508
Size: 111.4 KB

Name: M2_CS_USA_Graphs_1.jpg
Views: 508
Size: 111.4 KB

Name: M2_CS_USA_Graphs_2.png
Views: 497
Size: 275.4 KB

CarJunkie · 01-08-2021, 08:50 PM

This really demonstrates how quickly the options dilute down......I took the most common color, most common brakes, most common wheel color, and the most common tire. I took DCT instead of 6MT which was the only exception. I ended up with a rare build, 10 out of 568.

medphysdave · 01-08-2021, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarJunkie

This really demonstrates how quickly the options dilute down......I took the most common color, most common brakes, most common wheel color, and the most common tire. I took DCT instead of 6MT which was the only exception. I ended up with a rare build, 10 out of 568.

BMW did everyone a solid by offering 6MT/DCT and 2NH/2NK while keeping production low. It really ensured that most specs would be limited with some being exceptionally rare. Imagine if it had remained at 466 units. Look at the most popular color. Only 215 Units in the entire US. BSM is almost half that. AW, there are more cars in a grocery store parking lot at any one time than white CS in the US. Pretty neat.

ptgltw · 01-08-2021, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medphysdave

BMW did everyone a solid by offering 6MT/DCT and 2NH/2NK while keeping production low. It really ensured that most specs would be limited with some being exceptionally rare. Imagine if it had remained at 466 units. Look at the most popular color. Only 215 Units in the entire US. BSM is almost half that. AW, there are more cars in a grocery store parking lot at any one time than white CS in the US. Pretty neat.

So when I drive the LTW around, the first question is always.....Is it real?

When I drove the M2CS to Cars and Coffee 2 weeks ago guess what the first question was....Is it real?

Car is keeping good company

GimmeanM · 01-08-2021, 10:02 PM

So true that there really aren't that many no matter which way you slice it. I guess you could say mine is the most 'poster child' spec with MB on Gold with CCB and MT and it's still only 1 of 33.

01-08-2021, 04:09 PM	#24
Hedoniste Major 1616 Rep 1,258 Posts Drives: M2 CS Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Swiss Alps iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M2 CS [0.00]	Amazing work congrats ! Amazing the rate of manual gearboxes... sure it will be a different story in Europe. __________________ 2020 BMW M2 CS DCT (MB) 2018 BMW M3 DCT ZCP (AY/FBL) - sold 2015 BMW M3 DCT (AW/FSO) - sold 2011 BMW M3 Coupe 6MT ZCP (MW/BL) - sold 2007 BMW M Coupe (IB/BL) - sold INSTA: hedoniste__
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-08-2021, 04:38 PM	#29
MomoM3 Major 684 Rep 1,215 Posts Drives: X7 M50i \| M2 CS \| X5 35i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lehigh Valley PA iTrader: (3)	Thank you so much for posting this GimmeanM!!!! Fantastic data - I did not expect this level of detail. Amazing. My build is Misano Blue, ZMT, 2NH, Black wheels... pretty high count @ 39 units all things considered! Also I am very surprised the take-rate for gold vs black wheels to be pretty even! Would have thought gold would win by far...
	Appreciate 1 GimmeanM925.50 Quote

01-08-2021, 05:09 PM	#31
Artemis Moderator 14540 Rep 10,934 Posts Drives: BMW M2C (BSM) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	GimmeanM, added to your first post of this thread: EDIT: Codes: Colors: AW = Alpine White (300) BSM = Black Sapphire Metallic (475) HS = Hockenheim Silver Metallic (C33) MB = Misano Blue Metallic (C1D) Transmission: ZMT = 6-speed Manual Transmission (6MT) 2MK = M-DCT = M Dual Clutch Transmission (M-DCT) Brakes: 2NH = M Sport Brakes (steel) (red-colored) 2NK = M-CCB = M Carbon Ceramic Brakes (gold-colored) Wheels: Black = Jet Black 763M wheels Gold = Matt Gold 763M wheels Tires: PSS = Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires Cup2 = Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires __________________ ///M is art ↔ Artemis
	Appreciate 3 GimmeanM925.50 Bimmed Out1616.50 BMWGirlFL1553.00 Quote

01-08-2021, 05:46 PM	#32
arciga18 Brigadier General 1228 Rep 3,002 Posts Drives: LeMans/ Chestnut E90, RWD Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	I don't know what websites people use to decode Vins. All of my go to websites are down or I get blocked after 1 search. Even the sketchy websites are down. BUT!!!! Now i can use this spreadsheet to just look at options without having to reach out to sales. Thank you GimmeanM
	Appreciate 1 GimmeanM925.50 Quote

01-08-2021, 06:30 PM	#34
NVMYCS Enlisted Member 80 Rep 35 Posts Drives: F87 CS 20' G07 21' Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: EU iTrader: (0)	Will you be adding military sales cars to the list in the future?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-08-2021, 07:42 PM	#36
slicer Major General 2099 Rep 6,421 Posts Drives: '13 E92 M3 - '20 X3MC Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wisconsin - Instagram - @slicer_m iTrader: (37)	Great info, thanks a ton for putting this together __________________ '20 M2 CS - Akrapovic, BBS, Ohlins, BMW Motorsports, Sparco, Stay Tuned.... '20 X3M Comp - BBS LM (21"), BBS CIR (20"), H&R Springs, Akrapovic EVO '13 E92 M3 (SOLD) - Ohlins TTX, SPL, AP Racing, Akrapovic, OE M3 GTS - Lip/RSD/Cage, BMW Motorsports, KMP Wheel, Sparco, BBS E88, BBS RIA, 3200 lbs INSTAGRAM - @Slicer_M
	Appreciate 1 GimmeanM925.50 Quote

01-08-2021, 08:05 PM	#37
Bimmed Out Drittes Pedal ist Pflicht 1617 Rep 1,105 Posts Drives: M2 CS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Less than 400 6MT’s to the USA...amazing. Thank you, GimmeanM, you are appreciated! __________________ BMW ///M: 2020 M2 CS - Sapphire Black 6MT w/ Black 763Ms 2013 E92 M3 - Alpine White 6MT ZCP Speed Cloth - No Navigation/iDrive - Sold 2013 E92 M3 - Space Grey 6MT ZCP Speed Cloth - Sold 2003 E46 M3 - Carbon Black 6MT - Sold PORSCHE: Numerous 911's and GT3’s, etc., over the last 20 years.
	Appreciate 1 GimmeanM925.50 Quote

01-08-2021, 08:19 PM	#38
cptJLPicard F1 Fan 34 Rep 97 Posts Drives: M2CS; E82/135i Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Aurora iTrader: (0)	Awesome work! How can we get the Canadian numbers? __________________ 2020 M2CS, 6MT; 2008 135i, 6MT, M/premium/comfort/sound pkg \| COBB \| perf exhaust / springs \| M3 bits \| BMW Perf Steering Wheel v2
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-08-2021, 08:45 PM	#40
Artemis Moderator 14540 Rep 10,934 Posts Drives: BMW M2C (BSM) Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	GimmeanM, added to your first post of this thread: additional graphs based on your figures (generated with this easy tool). __________________ ///M is art ↔ Artemis
	Appreciate 4 Bimmed Out1616.50 GimmeanM925.50 Hedoniste1615.50 BMWGirlFL1553.00 Quote

01-08-2021, 08:50 PM	#41
CarJunkie Lieutenant Colonel 1030 Rep 1,958 Posts Drives: e82 1M, e30 325e, f15 X5 40e Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Tri-Cities, Washington iTrader: (1) Garage List COMING SOON! 2020 M2cs [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [0.00] 1986 BMW 325e [0.00] 2018 BMW X5 xDrive40e [0.00]	This really demonstrates how quickly the options dilute down......I took the most common color, most common brakes, most common wheel color, and the most common tire. I took DCT instead of 6MT which was the only exception. I ended up with a rare build, 10 out of 568. __________________ 1M track toy mods: BMS chargepipe, BMS OCC, ADE FMIC, ADE motor mounts, MadDad/Lightweight Ti exhaust, ADE custom oil thermostat/cooler, custom MHD tune, F10 550i clutch, Ohlins R+T, Vorschlag camber plates, M3 'vert FSB with Turner endlinks, Stoptech Trophy BBK.
	Appreciate 1 Bimmed Out1616.50 Quote

01-08-2021, 10:02 PM	#44
GimmeanM We've landed on the moon! 926 Rep 790 Posts Drives: 2011 1M (AW) Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 BMW M2 CS [0.00] 2018 Toyota Tacoma [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [5.00]	So true that there really aren't that many no matter which way you slice it. I guess you could say mine is the most 'poster child' spec with MB on Gold with CCB and MT and it's still only 1 of 33. __________________
	Appreciate 5 Bimmed Out1616.50 CarJunkie1030.00 Hedoniste1615.50 Skotcoop192.50 Bimmercs1173.00 Quote

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search