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I've gotta say that the AA EL midpipe with stock exhaust sounds great on the F80 cars. I really don't want to cut my exhaust, but for the price, this would bring a lot of satisfaction.
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Yeah if it was otherwise identical that would definitely result in a different part number...good point! I did check the cat part number, and it is different than the M2C (assuming I checked the right part!)...the front most cat.
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theres nothing special about this underbody vs m2c. m2cs = some CF bits and pieces here and there, with M4C engine tune
whereas m3/m4 cs = magnesium oil pan with extra 0.5L oil capacity, cf drive shaft, different engine and DCT tune, and exceptional cooling, etc. |
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As far as the CS versus M2C - so far there do not appear to be any underbody differences. Back to the N55 M2, those differences have been debated between M2C and N55 M2 in other areas so I won't cover that. There are several sources that have said there is more cooling on the CS than the M2C, but nobody has seen parts or anything to confirm that. As far as this comment on the M3/M4 CS. yes on the Magnesium pan an capacity, the CF driveshaft was pulled over from the early days of the M3/M4 F80's, so that was not really "new". The M2 CS has a different engine and diff tune as well, and the supposed additional cooling. Not sure what the "etc" is. The M2 CS is carrying the integral carbon roof that wasn't even on the M3/M4 CS, plus adaptive dampers from the M3/M4's that was not on any M2. Each bit is what it is, and the cars are what they are. The CS models are all slight iterations, and have done well for improving over their stablemates.
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I thought they stopped making the CF driveshafts a few years ago due to them breaking?
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That's my understanding (stopped making/using them). I also hadn't heard they were on the M3/M4 CS, but I'm assuming he is correct with what he put forward. Not worth challenging things I'm not confident around.
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BTW, the F8X CS does retain the carbon fiber driveshaft, BMW stays they eliminated on newer standard M4s due to "emissions" (pause for 🙄, yet kept it on the same model year GTS and future year CS. https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24987504 |
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Anyone who says the M2 CS stock exhaust sounds good, i'm sorry, you need to get your ears checked. Its awful, both in OPF and non-OPF. |
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Is the rear subframe of the M2 bolted directly to the chassis like the F80? Just curious how similar the F gen cars are for this engineering element.
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And from what I see, it's the same exact exhaust as the "C" - minus the tips and maybe less sound deadening.. I would be skeptical if anyone claims any power gains going from a fully-functioning stock exhaust, to aftermarket, regardless of the model. I don't really care what my BMW sounds like, just give me any aural feedback, without the pops & burbles - I just loath the attention those sounds attracts and they are antithetical to the sophistication BMWs are suppose to commandeer.. |
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Apparently less obnoxious firecracker noises on the CS. I'm looking forward to this if true. I'll know soon and report back. |
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Beautiful car!
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I assume this because of the new Euro noise ordinance, for the newer model years, that has trickled down to all current vehicles. However, I believe, Australia, where you reside, vehicles doesn't come with an OPF. So you'll get the unbridled exhaust.. I welcome the scale back on overrun bubbles fad but I get why some that crave attention might be disappointed by this but honestly, it wasn't doing you any favors; trust me, the average person observing your car drive by is not charmed by you new Bimmer sounding like a old misfiring carburetor engine. Anyways, you lucky dog - I'm looking forward to your CS review.. |
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What were you cleaning the car with? Any issues with the dirt residue on the garage floor, or do you hose/squeegee it out?
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