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It all depends on what supplier needs to do those types of rework before shipping. (Quality issues) For me, it involved taking the dash apart, accessing a module to replace a config file. This was before it had the OTA capability. For another company, it was replacing wire harnesses because rodents will chew up the corn-oil based insulations. I’ve even seen workers using pry bars to adjust panel alignments... |
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Just answering what gets done from time to time by suppliers when they find a lot/batch that was defective, shipped and assembled into finished goods. Warranty is much much more expensive for the suppliers, so they send their engineers and operators to OEM plant to ‘rework’ the affected cars that are already built and awaiting shipping. |
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Again, I’d like to disclose that I have no experience working with German OEMs.
From what I’ve been informed, their quality control and handling of rework/CA process seems to be much more tight and strict compared to domestic & Asian brands. The way newer revisions find the way into newer MY vehicles is the main reason why I never buy the first MY. |
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I'll reiterate though, and I've said it to them, I really don't think it's appropriate that they select a customer ordered car for BMW to verify their manufacturing tolerances etc under QA. Pick a dealer stock car instead. The ball is in their court now to fix this...
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10-02-2020, 05:40 PM | #29 | |
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Totally agree. I would be upset if my car had that many "test" miles. I had something like 11 when i picked mine up. Well, i think it was 11 before my test drive and it ended up being 19. My 350Z had something like 24, but then again, it also was made in Japan and had to be brought up on a boat. I would imagine domestic cars having much lower miles. It sucks that this is hampering the new car experience.
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All BMWs, before they leave the factory, are tested for defects, on a dynamometer, - no vehicle is ever specifically singled out for further research. With that said, it's up to you to accept this claim. I honestly not sure what I would of done in this situation but I my BS meter would of certainly been off the chart because I maintain an active mistrust of everyone and everything but that's just me.. Forward the video below to the 28:30 point, this is a typical factory run-through testing: |
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10-04-2020, 08:32 AM | #32 | ||
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Now, If you something to contradict this, then I'm all ears and is always willing to accept new factual information. So please, wow me with your retort.. |
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A very long time ago, I worked as an inspector for Porsche at their PDI facility on the east coast. When the cars came off the boats, they would go though a multiple point inspection which included them going on a lift to check the underbody.
For example, we were instructed to pull a car for a "QA check" if we saw any sign of fluid on the underbody (Brake, Transmission, Engine, Coolant, etc.). It could be something as dumb as someone at the factory leaving an oily handprint on the engine case, but Porsche did not want to risk warranty/customer satisfaction hit and they would review the car and check the seals for leaks. For the appearance, we also checked all the body panels, wheels and tires in these light tunnels for visual defects/blemishes and would routinely send cars back for the smallest things that took bright lighting and magnification to see. Bottom line, QA check does not mean something bad. On the contrary, it is an advantage that it had the extra attention to make sure it the car is in the best condition for delivery.
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The bit I find hard to justify in my case is they had to drive it 50+ km to achieve this QA process, and then to do this randomly on a customer ordered car. I'm not against them performing QA at all, and if that's what it was then so be it, im not sure yet. I've asked them to justify it and provide me details in writing. Still waiting to hear...
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Update -
Received a letter from BMW stating that my car had been randomly selected for quality assessment. No specific testing details were provided, but they did state that tests were only conducted in a BMW plant environment and that all operations were conducted in accordance with the operating manual inc. running in procedures. My car passed all quality tests and had no defects attended to. Based on this i decided to accept the car. Delivery should be tomorrow. 238days (7 months 25 days) after signing. Looking forward to getting it!
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I could live with that, official letter and all, even it's the first time I've every heard of this 🤷🏻 Anyways, enjoy your new ride 👍🏻 |
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After having a longer period to think about it, given the post COVID closure production changes etc and mine being a manual (maybe even the 1st manual out post closure) might have had something to do with the "random" selection. Probably not, doesn't matter...
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Woohoo! the moment you take the car out for a good drive you'll forget about all the extra QA kms.
Congrats! excited for you.
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Good peace of mind but i would ask them for extended warranty or some sort of comp off because they used my car for random testing
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This makes up for it...
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Looks used, how many miles were on that thing when you bought it?
Sorry couldn't resist.
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