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Anyone running Nitto Tires on their M2 in 18" staggered . The only option I see for 18" is 245/40/18 F, 265/40/18 R. Wish they made more sizes in 18". Don't understand why there is such limited widths for this tire.
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Anyone running Nitto Tires on their M2 in 18" staggered . The only option I see for 18" is 245/40/18 F, 265/40/18 R. Wish they made more sizes in 18". Don't understand why there is such limited widths for this tire.
Could run 275/35r18 square
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Could run 275/35r18 square
I' running a Staggered set-up right now, but do have the wheels to do a square. Will 275/35/18 fit with no problems?
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Could run 275/35r18 square
I' running a Staggered set-up right now, but do have the wheels to do a square. Will 275/35/18 fit with no problems?
With the correct offsets and camber, yes.
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You usually have to go down 2 sizes when switching to semi slick track rubber, due to the square profile (and the over generous numbering of street tyres). I can't see 275 R comp tyres fitting up front myself. Try before you buy, but of course you could always use them in the rear if they don't fit.
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You usually have to go down 2 sizes when switching to semi slick track rubber, due to the square profile (and the over generous numbering of street tyres). I can't see 275 R comp tyres fitting up front myself. Try before you buy, but of course you could always use them in the rear if they don't fit.
I was thinking of 245/40/18 F, 265/40/18 R, which is going down 2 sizes from my current 265/35/18 F, 285/30/18 R.
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You usually have to go down 2 sizes when switching to semi slick track rubber, due to the square profile (and the over generous numbering of street tyres). I can't see 275 R comp tyres fitting up front myself. Try before you buy, but of course you could always use them in the rear if they don't fit.
Theres plenty of people who run 275 R compound tires in the front (its extremely common, actually). Its all about the wheel offset and camber.

I'm running 265 square right now, only because I got the deal on the tires. My next set will be 275 and should fit just fine.

My (front) specs:

KW V3 coilovers (lowered about 3/4")
TC Kline Camber plates (-2.75 degrees in the front)
Apex EC-7 10x18 ET35 wheels
Apex 12mm spacers
Federal RSR-R 265/35r18 (section width: 10.7")

The section width on the Nitto NT01 275/35r18 is 10.91", pretty close to the same as the federals I'm running in 265. and I do have a bit of space between the tires and my suspension (where its most likely to rub). Worst case I need to bump my spacers up a size. I'm nowhere near rubbing fenders.
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Theres plenty of people who run 275 R compound tires in the front (its extremely common, actually). Its all about the wheel offset and camber.

I'm running 265 square right now, only because I got the deal on the tires. My next set will be 275 and should fit just fine.

My (front) specs:

KW V3 coilovers (lowered about 3/4")
TC Kline Camber plates (-2.75 degrees in the front)
Apex EC-7 10x18 ET35 wheels
Apex 12mm spacers
Federal RSR-R 265/35r18 (section width: 10.7")

The section width on the Nitto NT01 275/35r18 is 10.91", pretty close to the same as the federals I'm running in 265. and I do have a bit of space between the tires and my suspension (where its most likely to rub). Worst case I need to bump my spacers up a size. I'm nowhere near rubbing fenders.
My front specs are lowered 10mm (4/10") on Ohlins
Vorshlag Camber plates (-3 degrees F, -2.3 degrees R) Apex FL-5, 18" ET 28 F, ET 40 R. Dunlop Dirrezza 111's 255/35/18 F, 285/30/18 R. No plates.
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you'll probably need some spacers to run 275 fronts.
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I was thinking of 245/40/18 F, 265/40/18 R, which is going down 2 sizes from my current 265/35/18 F, 285/30/18 R.
It looks like the 40 rear is much taller than the 30 even though they are two widths down. Is that going to cause any issues with your setup?
24.7" to 26.3" diameter
My shop is fitting me with 275/35/18 square RE71R with no issue. MCS 1wnr with GC camber plates on Titan7 TS5 wheels. Not sure of final camber setting.
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It looks like the 40 rear is much taller than the 30 even though they are two widths down. Is that going to cause any issues with your setup?
24.7" to 26.3" diameter
My shop is fitting me with 275/35/18 square RE71R with no issue. MCS 1wnr with GC camber plates on Titan7 TS5 wheels. Not sure of final camber setting.
Good point. I will have to look at that.
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Anyone running Nitto Tires on their M2 in 18" staggered . The only option I see for 18" is 245/40/18 F, 265/40/18 R. Wish they made more sizes in 18". Don't understand why there is such limited widths for this tire.
Just a month or so ago I was ready to commit to the 275/35F 305/35R Nitto NT-01 setup with 11" rims in the rear.

I decided to not work hard and spend more dollars this year on chasing 10MM more rear tire.

They will fit back there and I did the math with a rep from APEX.

At least 2.2 neg Camber, a fender roll, and proper offsets will make it work.

It will be a tight fit!

275/35/18 is one of the most popular track tire sizes and a square setup should not be an issue with a proper offset rim and spacer if needed up front.

Since then, I decided to run the new Falken RT660's 275/30/19 & 295/35/19 's on the OEM rims.

Then for track days the Toyo RR's 275/35/18 & the 295/30's on my 18x10" Apex's. I eventually will add another inch of rim in back to manage the the tire's contact patch better.

I believe this will be the best street/200W Auto X/wet track days setup.

With the RR's for dry track days


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Just a month or so ago I was ready to commit to the 275/35F 305/35R Nitto NT-01 setup with 11" rims in the rear.

I decided to not work hard and spend more dollars this year on chasing 10MM more rear tire.

They will fit back there and I did the math with a rep from APEX.

At least 2.2 neg Camber, a fender roll, and proper offsets will make it work.

It will be a tight fit!

275/35/18 is one of the most popular track tire sizes and a square setup should not be an issue with a proper offset rim and spacer if needed up front.

Since then, I decided to run the new Falken RT660's 275/30/19 & 295/35/19 's on the OEM rims.

Then for track days the Toyo RR's 275/35/18 & the 295/30's on my 18x10" Apex's. I eventually will add another inch of rim in back to manage the the tire's contact patch better.

I believe this will be the best street/200W Auto X/wet track days setup.

With the RR's for dry track days


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I was interested in going with a 100 R Compound as I have been running 200 for the last couple of years. It seems the Nitto's have very limited sizes and in keeping 20mm staggered difference, the only option is 245/265/40 18. But having just lowered my suspension 10mm, going with 40 series will put me higher than OEM. How much less feel would you lose going from a 255 front tire to a 265, or 275 if I go with wider tires?
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I wouldn't compromise on sizes. If you want to run staggered setup, Perhaps the NT01 isn't for you.

Have you looked at other 100TW tires? R888r?
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I wouldn't compromise on sizes. If you want to run staggered setup, Perhaps the NT01 isn't for you.

Have you looked at other 100TW tires? R888r?
Yea, that's my second choice, can't decide, 255/275 18, (20mm diff.), or 275/295 18, (30mm). I know what 30mm diff. feels like as that's my current set-up.
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I was interested in going with a 100 R Compound as I have been running 200 for the last couple of years. It seems the Nitto's have very limited sizes and in keeping 20mm staggered difference, the only option is 245/265/40 18. But having just lowered my suspension 10mm, going with 40 series will put me higher than OEM. How much less feel would you lose going from a 255 front tire to a 265, or 275 if I go with wider tires?
On a 10" rim a 265, or 275 up front will not effect "feel"...Especially on a R Compound tire with stiffer sidewall construction. A 10-12 MM spacer will be required up front with the 33 offset.

The Nitto's are a great HPDE tire and will last a few more heat cycles than the RR's, but the RR's come in better sizes for your needs IMHO. 255/35 & 275/35, or do what I'm doing and run the 275/35 & 295/30.
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It looks like the 40 rear is much taller than the 30 even though they are two widths down. Is that going to cause any issues with your setup?
24.7" to 26.3" diameter
My shop is fitting me with 275/35/18 square RE71R with no issue. MCS 1wnr with GC camber plates on Titan7 TS5 wheels. Not sure of final camber setting.
How wide are your wheels?
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On a 10" rim a 265, or 275 up front will not effect "feel"...Especially on a R Compound tire with stiffer sidewall construction. A 10-12 MM spacer will be required up front with the 33 offset.

The Nitto's are a great HPDE tire and will last a few more heat cycles than the RR's, but the RR's come in better sizes for your needs IMHO. 255/35 & 275/35, or do what I'm doing and run the 275/35 & 295/30.
Will Nitto's communicate as they begin to give up grip? How are they compared to A052's as far as that goes. My experience is only with 200 treadwear tires.
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Will Nitto's communicate as they begin to give up grip? How are they compared to A052's as far as that goes. My experience is only with 200 treadwear tires.
I have not had a set of NT-01's on any of my current or past track rides.

This is a great HPDE tire where 60-70 Heat Cycles are very common (15 track days/4 run sessions per day).

Here's a review:
http://racetrackdriving.com/tech/tir...ew/nitto-nt01/

If their like many of the other R Compound tires they will not make any noise until you transition from Rolling Friction to Sliding Friction. Even then they will not make anywhere as much noise as a street tire.

Each tires construction and especially sidewall tech will determine its "personality" on track.

If you have been on 200's for a while and your either close to signed off to Solo or are free to run w/o an instructor you should be more than ready to come over to the dark side.

For me the only downside is trackside mounting and dismounting.

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