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      11-18-2016, 05:20 PM   #23
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Cool Grand Tour - M2

Old geezer Jeremy was brave and honest enough to say that it's the best BMW car ever made.



The car was honored to be firstly introduced on their new test track, and it showed why there is still much buzz going on around this little rocket!



Even thought it wasn't faster then M3 and M5 around their new track, I enjoyed every second how geezer was dancing with it!

But anyway, it's amazing show and don't miss it!
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      11-18-2016, 09:13 PM   #24
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Best M-car ever. Wow, that got my attention.
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      11-19-2016, 01:29 AM   #26
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I do have to say that I'm very skeptical of their new "track"

The R8 shouldn't be faster than a GTR and an M5 shouldn't be faster than an M3 on any normal race track.
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      11-19-2016, 03:22 AM   #27
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I do have to say that I'm very skeptical of their new "track"

The R8 shouldn't be faster than a GTR and an M5 shouldn't be faster than an M3 on any normal race track.
What is a "normal race track"? They're all different so what GT are using is just another variation.

Anyway, good to see Clarckson loving the M2 and even better that he drove a 6MT i.e. a proper one
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      11-19-2016, 07:07 AM   #28
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Yesterday was an amaaazing friday! TGT + the M2! Had some serious goosebump action that evening.

Even though it was epic, it felt much more "scripted" than when they did Top Gear UK, hopefully it will seem more natural later on
Also I'm sick of seeing the holy trinity time and time again, but that's because it's such a long time ago the Trio were suppose to review them :/.

The first episode was amaaazing regardless
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      11-19-2016, 10:55 AM   #29
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Hammond said: "best m car ever?" "faster than a civic". hahaha. good one.
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Can't believe they picked Mike Skinner as the American driver, I am sure he is a nice guy and he is great on ovals but I don't think he has much experience driving any variety of cars. Would have been nice to see them get a great driver like Scott Pruett or perhaps a great Canadian driver like Boris Said.
Maybe they saw this:

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      11-19-2016, 02:23 PM   #31
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Well, he said the best, not the fastest.
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      11-19-2016, 09:13 PM   #32
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      11-19-2016, 11:29 PM   #33
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      11-20-2016, 04:46 PM   #34
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"I think this is the best ///M car BMW has ever made."
"This car happily has an old back-to-basics approach."
"Klaus and Fritz, I am loving your work."
"This isn't as fast in a straight line as an M3, but everywhere else it is better. It feels less heavy, less cumbersome, and due to the unique characteristics of our straight, I can tell the steering is less twitchy."
"This thing is an absolute masterpiece. I can say it is the best ///M car BMW has ever made. It's mad to suggest the cheapest ///M car is the best. But look at it this way: this track is a lot cheaper than Silverstone, and I know which one I'd rather drive around."
"It's a fabulous car, it's a brilliant car, it really honestly is."

OK, Jeremy Clarkson liked the M2 6MT.
Now we know JC likes it does this mean the price just went up?
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      11-20-2016, 05:24 PM   #35
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Now we know JC likes it does this mean the price just went up?
This 'The Grand Tour' kick-off episode gets tremendous attention. The M2 being presented and getting accolades, may draw extra attention to the car.

That's what also happened in 2011 after the Top Gear episode where Jeremy Clarkson drove the 1M and (equally) gave it a rave review:
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Glad I got on the M2 wait list when I did. After hearing Clarkson's words on 'The Grand Tour' Ep.1, I immediately thought, "Uh oh, a lot of people are watching this right now!"
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This 'The Grand Tour' kick-off episode gets tremendous attention. The M2 being presented and getting accolades, may draw extra attention to the car.

That's what also happened in 2011 after the Top Gear episode where Jeremy Clarkson drove the 1M and (equally) gave it a rave review:


"A straight six engine at the front, a manual gearbox in the middle, and drive goes to the back. That's page one, chapter one from the petrosexual handbook."

That's why JC rocks. No matter how many times he's said that XYZ is the best thing ever.
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      11-21-2016, 06:34 AM   #38
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This 'The Grand Tour' kick-off episode gets tremendous attention. The M2 being presented and getting accolades, may draw extra attention to the car.
It already has for me.

On Sunday I awoke to collect my posted letters by the door.

As I looked out the window I saw a young chap delivering leaflets. He was standing in my drive just looking at the M2.

I was concerned at first, but then he walked away smiling.

I figured he may have seen TGT

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Glad I got on the M2 wait list when I did. After hearing Clarkson's words on 'The Grand Tour' Ep.1, I immediately thought, "Uh oh, a lot of people are watching this right now!"
I thought "Uh oh" too, but in the sense that this could cause a rift in the ///M forums, which it has.

I'm a member of a few ///M forums and have noticed bitterness towards the M2.

It's just history repeating itself I guess. I remember when the 1M came out. I was (and still am) a big fan, but many ripped the car apart.

I know the 1M is rarer (low production yield), but it's funny how after a few years it is now unanimously adored... and the critics have disappeared
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It's just history repeating itself I guess. I remember when the 1M came out. I was (and still am) a big fan, but many ripped the car apart.
I know the 1M is rarer (low production yield), but it's funny how after a few years it is now unanimously adored... and the critics have disappeared
That 1M Top Gear episode silenced most ill-founded 1M crticism. Deemed quite authoritive when a car gets accolades from Clarkson & Co. Back in the day when yet another E9X M3 owner bitterly bashed the 1M à la "Pfff, the 1M ain't a real ///M - go figure !", it only took a "Oh, you missed Top Gear recently, didn't you ?" or "Small piece of advice: go drive one and let's talk again".
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Still slower than the M5.

And you get to have your butt massaged and enjoy cooled ventilated seats while beating the "true sports cars" (ahem M3 and M2) on the track. I didn't even mention the better exhaust note of the V8 either. Lol!

And I have driven an M3 and an M2 on the track before, while fun and definitely more nimble, they felt a lot slower.
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And Chris Harris just gave the 1M and M2 some TLC too:
http://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-...s-bmw-1m-coupe
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Still slower than the M5.

And you get to have your butt massaged and enjoy cooled ventilated seats while beating the "true sports cars" (ahem M3 and M2) on the track. I didn't even mention the better exhaust note of the V8 either. Lol!

And I have driven an M3 and an M2 on the track before, while fun and definitely more nimble, they felt a lot slower.
And your point is?

That is one stupid comment, Sir.
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      11-21-2016, 12:35 PM   #43
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Who's watching? Great praise from JC calling it the best M car BMW has ever made.
I was hoping it would be as fast as an M3 though, but still great showing and great footage !
Proof that "best" is more than just fastest.
Better numbers are one thing. And yes, better laps times can indicate a more "fun" car.
But road feel, responsiveness, and balance are very important and can't really be measured directly.

And yes, we can't ignore "The American"'s statement that:

"Three liters. Six cylinders. This thing wouldn't pull a greasy string out of a dog's ass.
Where I come from, this ain't a car. It's a cry for help."


Oh well. Think of that as video clickbait. (Like much of Top Gear past and present.)
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