[MR.]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

It's mainly ignorance as seen above, and you have to remember of course this is the M2 board. The newest RS3 is a seriously capable machine.

I did not like the RS3 at all... Fast from A to B, but that is about it. The TT-RS however. Different story! I love it, but the price tag is pretty much horrendous.

MR

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

It's mainly ignorance as seen above, and you have to remember of course this is the M2 board. The newest RS3 is a seriously capable machine.

If one is into drag racing, the RS3 is fantastic. Into the 9's with stock motor and hybrid turbo. Otherwise no interest.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by tifosielia

Hmm anyone else notice the option code ZSP - Special Order a $400 option? I wonder if that's what they'll charge to factory install M performance parts what else could you special order on the car that would be popular enough that they would list It in the order guide.

The special order $400 option has always been listed in the Canadian M2 Ordering guide.The MY16 and MY17 ordering guide also have that same $400 special order option.

[Potatohead-M2]

Originally Posted by MR.

I did not like the RS3 at all... Fast from A to B, but that is about it. The TT-RS however. Different story! I love it, but the price tag is pretty much horrendous.

MR

TTRS is 300 lbs lighter, RS3 actually handles better with the longer wheelbase. I don't know about USA (this topic is about Canada) but an M2C is now the same price as TTRS in Canada and the Audi still comes with far more features, and is also 350 lbs lighter.

I like all these cars don't get me wrong but the Audis are a serious value up here in comparison, and since we don't live in SoCal the awd is a big deal too.

Originally Posted by M3_WC

If one is into drag racing, the RS3 is fantastic. Into the 9's with stock motor and hybrid turbo. Otherwise no interest.

Not just drag racing. Of course RS3 does not really feel like a rwd car which a lot of guys are dead set on. If lap times are your ticket they are virtually the same with the BMW having much better tires.

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by Poochie

N55 sounds great.

I sold my M2(L)....hope the comp is as good in the twisties.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

It's mainly ignorance as seen above, and you have to remember of course this is the M2 board. The newest RS3 is a seriously capable machine.

And also cheaper in Canada than the M2, where in the US I think it's the other way around.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

Not just drag racing. Of course RS3 does not really feel like a rwd car which a lot of guys are dead set on. If lap times are your ticket they are virtually the same with the BMW having much better tires.

There is a reason all the track days I attend there is never any Audi’s. Occasional R8.

[Potatohead-M2]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

There is a reason all the track days I attend there is never any Audi’s. Occasional R8.

People mainly track rwd cars, not really news.

[S1monQc]

No MPE option... People will get rapped when it will be time to buy aftermarket/MPE exhaust not port installed!

[Gearhead999s]

Originally Posted by dc5s

You were able to build and order?

Gave my dealer my order which he says can be entered on Thursday.I am hoping for delivery before October as that is when my M4 lease is up.

[bdogk]

Anyone have Cdn prices on MPerf parts yet? And any know which ones are factory, port or dealer installed?

[ryem3]

Interesting news. Basically offers details on the cost of getting the car including brakes, sport seats, and the led lights. Not bad.

Should probably save the comparison with the rs3 for the inevitable thread of its own. If people are thinking it's all about straight line or track times, you've never lived where it gets cold. The rs3 is going to smoke any m2, even if it has snow tires when the temps are below 30 deg or there is the least bit of snow. That's just the awd advantage. Personally, I'll take a golf r and save $20k plus.

[Nkc]

Just saw the new pricing on the M2c from my dealer and wow, I can't believe all this is offered for that price. Seats, s55, exhaust, wheels, brakes, led, etc all standard. All I need is the HK sound system and the carplay+wifi options. Thank you BMW.

[///M Houbi]

I‘ve seen the canada pdf yesterday and was blown away to be honest. Base price in switzerland rose 7,9% and would be nothing but typical that still after the huge bump all kool new parts would still be extra...

Now my hopes are high that most of the new parts are allready included as well, this would give me quite a few thousand bucks more budget for m performance stuff and what not else...

[mWHO]

Originally Posted by akkando

And also cheaper in Canada than the M2, where in the US I think it's the other way around.

At 62900 vs 65200 does anyone really care???

Not to be an ass (nor am I not a BMW fanboi) but this argument is lacking context.

Also I heard the sounds and saw the damage the RS3 can do at the strip. If you live on the straightaways of the desert or on the great plains, and want something more sophisticated than a muscle car or generic TT tuner then I think its sprinting prowess would be highly tempting.

[Potatohead-M2]

Originally Posted by mWHO

At 62900 vs 65200 does anyone really care???

Not to be an ass (nor am I not a BMW fanboi) but this argument is lacking context.

Also I heard the sounds and saw the damage the RS3 can do at the strip. If you live on the straightaways of the desert or on the great plains, and want something more sophisticated than a muscle car or generic TT tuner then I think its sprinting prowess would be highly tempting.

The price difference between M2 and M2C is big enough to create a significant advantage for the Audi. By the time you add a few options to the M2C, and especially if you want DCT, the difference is 10-12k+ and standard with the Audi you get pano roof, awd, dual clutch, magnetic shocks, virtual cockpit, better quality leather, sports exhaust is only $900, and one of the world's best engines. It's only 5k more than a Focus RS (!!).

The only reason to pay that much more for the M2C is if you don't really plan on winter driving it and you have to have rwd dynamics and/or a six speed, which is understandable. At 75k though you can just about get a Cayman S if that stuff is your main concern.

[Kothar]

Originally Posted by Potatohead-M2

The price difference between M2 and M2C is big enough to create a significant advantage for the Audi. By the time you add a few options to the M2C, and especially if you want DCT, the difference is 10-12k+ and standard with the Audi you get pano roof, awd, dual clutch, magnetic shocks, virtual cockpit, better quality leather, sports exhaust is only $900, and one of the world's best engines. It's only 5k more than a Focus RS (!!).

The only reason to pay that much more for the M2C is if you don't really plan on winter driving it and you have to have rwd dynamics and/or a six speed, which is understandable. At 75k though you can just about get a Cayman S if that stuff is your main concern.

You are not getting a Cayman s for 75k all the ones I see with comparable specs pushes near 100k. I even see base caymans pushing 90k at some dealers.

You can run rwd m2 in winter no problem.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by mWHO

At 62900 vs 65200 does anyone really care???

Not to be an ass (nor am I not a BMW fanboi) but this argument is lacking context.

Also I heard the sounds and saw the damage the RS3 can do at the strip. If you live on the straightaways of the desert or on the great plains, and want something more sophisticated than a muscle car or generic TT tuner then I think its sprinting prowess would be highly tempting.

I love most of the great kit you get from the RS3 - I really debated getting one, but the exterior styling isn't as aggressive as I wish it were, and not nearly as purposeful as the M2 (or the M2C either).

But there's no doubt that the RS3 has many advantages over the M2. The M2 gets the nod with MT, RWD, and subjective exterior styling for sure, but the RS3 has a lot going for it too.

[Potatohead-M2]

Originally Posted by Kothar

You are not getting a Cayman s for 75k all the ones I see with comparable specs pushes near 100k. I even see base caymans pushing 90k at some dealers.

You can run rwd m2 in winter no problem.

Well it is Porsche so you can spend 40k in options if you want.

I guess that depends on your definition of 'no problem.'

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Kothar

You are not getting a Cayman s for 75k all the ones I see with comparable specs pushes near 100k. I even see base caymans pushing 90k at some dealers.

You can run rwd m2 in winter no problem.

Did a conservative build, what I consider just the must-have Cayman S options...93k. I left off numerous options I would like.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Why do 437M wheels come with wider tires?

Looks like they just copied from some M4 documentation, the picture is AY with CCB, not offered on the M2. So it is more than likely an error.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

I was wondering the same thing but I ordered the standard wheels in black!

See post above.

Glad you're still alive though . It's been a while since you posted