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      08-12-2018, 03:01 PM   #1
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Fabspeed muffler bypass vs custom made?

Instead of ordering the muffler bypass from Fabspeed, why wouldn't I just custom make one from one of the best bending experts in my area for possible 1/5 of the price?

Make it similar to Fabspeeds and same piping and all?

Whats pros and cons?
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You'll save like $950 doing it at your local muffler shop. Same thing just not as pretty looking probably. (Under the car anyways)
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You'll save like $950 doing it at your local muffler shop. Same thing just not as pretty looking probably. (Under the car anyways)
Exactly, and they can still do the chrome tips and all, I just don't understand why Fabspeed charges so much, that just shows paying for a brand.
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Hey Guys,
Phil From Fabspeed here. You might be able to put something together at your local shop however they have not tested the system as much as we have tested our exhausts. You might be saying that it is just a muffler bypass how much testing could possible be going into it. With any of our vehicle exhausts we design multiple different exhaust to create the best sounding and highest performing exhaust possible. We test all of our exhaust on our dyno as well.

You are partially correct in that you are buying a brand. A brand that is USA built, all of the research and design has been completed by our staff. Multiple different exhausts were created and tested in order to find the correct one with the best sound. A brand that uses the best T304L stainless steel. A brand that each and every part is handmade by our staff here in Pennsylvania. Heck you can probably use a picture off of our site to "design your muffler bypass" but if it does not fit correctly you will need to take it back off and modify it again and again until you get it to fit correctly.
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Friend has one and it has TERRIBLE drone with a HFC, highly don't recommend buying this - they could of at least put some engineering time into it and added a J-pipe to cancel out the drone.

Sounds good revving it in a garage but not nice to actually drive, deadly drone with a HFC.
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You are partially correct in that you are buying a brand. A brand that is USA built,
So how is your USA brand any different than an exhaust shop in the USA being an American brand?

Are you guys more American than other Americans?
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Hey Guys,
Phil From Fabspeed here. You might be able to put something together at your local shop however they have not tested the system as much as we have tested our exhausts. You might be saying that it is just a muffler bypass how much testing could possible be going into it. With any of our vehicle exhausts we design multiple different exhaust to create the best sounding and highest performing exhaust possible. We test all of our exhaust on our dyno as well.

You are partially correct in that you are buying a brand. A brand that is USA built, all of the research and design has been completed by our staff. Multiple different exhausts were created and tested in order to find the correct one with the best sound. A brand that uses the best T304L stainless steel. A brand that each and every part is handmade by our staff here in Pennsylvania. Heck you can probably use a picture off of our site to "design your muffler bypass" but if it does not fit correctly you will need to take it back off and modify it again and again until you get it to fit correctly.
A good muffler shop that does custom exhausts can replicate your setup no problem. Cmon man! And yes using the same T304L stainless steel. Redline Speedworx amongst others does excellent custom exhaust work in NJ at reasonable prices.
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Friend has one and it has TERRIBLE drone with a HFC, highly don't recommend buying this - they could of at least put some engineering time into it and added a J-pipe to cancel out the drone.

Sounds good revving it in a garage but not nice to actually drive, deadly drone with a HFC.
Please have your friend reach out to me I would love to talk to him about his exhaust issues. I will say that this is a very aggressive setup you are adding a cat that flows 90% of free flow and deleting the muffler.
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I never said said that we are more American. I am saying that you can take our designs to the local speed shop and have them make something for you or you can find one online at a less expensive cost. What I was trying to say is that we do not outsource our designs and fabrication outside of the USA and there are cost associated with doing it this way.
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I don't understand why anyone would trust their 60k BMW to a local muffler shop. Fabspeed parts are high quality, engineered and will actually add value to the car. Not a chance would I buy a used BMW with a exhaust built/modified by, with all due respect a muffler shop guy.

The suggestion that someone copy Fabspeeds design if offensive to me. I see that crap all the time at SEMA, one company, or guy spends the time to engineer a quality part and the next year 4-5 companies from overseas show up with a copy-cat part.
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