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      02-04-2021, 04:44 PM   #441
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you could speculate that the heat makes the car protect itself by running richer, thus needing more fuel, but i don't think that's the case because your lambda is consistent.

the high IAT might have stalled your timing advance, but i don't see how it could affect your hpfp.

FYI early n55 ewg had a different pump for the year 2014, but i don't think they are any weaker. i just know they used a different plug. i 'upgraded' from this early one to a later hpfp with the different plug, but i did not notice a difference, so don't waste your time and money if you are in the same scenario.
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you could speculate that the heat makes the car protect itself by running richer, thus needing more fuel, but i don't think that's the case because your lambda is consistent.

the high IAT might have stalled your timing advance, but i don't see how it could affect your hpfp.

FYI early n55 ewg had a different pump for the year 2014, but i don't think they are any weaker. i just know they used a different plug. i 'upgraded' from this early one to a later hpfp with the different plug, but i did not notice a difference, so don't waste your time and money if you are in the same scenario.
Thanks for your input. An intercooler should be my next move then. Eliminate the simplest possible cause first
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Boostane turned my plugs orange but never caused any issues. I've ran about 12 cans of it over the last 2.5 years, I stopped last winter for a few months and ran the ACN91 tune and the orange was gone by spring. Only thing I would caution, my car is catless and I wouldn't run it often through an expensive high cell cat. I run a 1/3 can on BM3 93 OTS with Husky 94 and it has rock solid timing. I could probably get away with less but haven't experimented enough lately.
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Boostane turned my plugs orange but never caused any issues. I've ran about 12 cans of it over the last 2.5 years, I stopped last winter for a few months and ran the ACN91 tune and the orange was gone by spring. Only thing I would caution, my car is catless and I wouldn't run it often through an expensive high cell cat. I run a 1/3 can on BM3 93 OTS with Husky 94 and it has rock solid timing. I could probably get away with less but haven't experimented enough lately.
How high has your timing advance been on boostane? I wish we had husky 94 here. 😔

Btw, other than amazon where can one obtain boostane?
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How high has your timing advance been on boostane? I wish we had husky 94 here. 😔

Btw, other than amazon where can one obtain boostane?
12.5 I think at wot, with very little variation.

I always buy it on Amazon, not sure where else would have it.
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12.5 I think at wot, with very little variation.

I always buy it on Amazon, not sure where else would have it.
I buy it from ZZ Performance. (They're semi-local to me)

https://zzperformance.com/products/b...octane-booster
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No you can use it for flex fuel as well so a double duty kind of thing, and you can also tag on water meth control too.

Plus it doesn't utilize the ugly and cluttered obd2 cable that goes into the cabin that the zeritronix unit has to use, if I recall correctly.
$600 to use it as a ADC/PWM -> CAN is honestly expensive. We have something in the works for those that just want a simple Analog input to CAN, including flex readings. For meth or PI yes, reflex is the way to go.

I'm not sure what you mean about the ugly and cluttered OBD2 cable, that's not for the zeitronix, it's for logging directly on CAN bus so we can do 50Hz+ with basic channels or 25hz+ with custom channels.
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$600 to use it as a ADC/PWM -> CAN is honestly expensive. We have something in the works for those that just want a simple Analog input to CAN, including flex readings. For meth or PI yes, reflex is the way to go.

I'm not sure what you mean about the ugly and cluttered OBD2 cable, that's not for the zeitronix, it's for logging directly on CAN bus so we can do 50Hz+ with basic channels or 25hz+ with custom channels.
That is good to hear you guys are going to make a cheaper option for just flex fuel sensors.

See, I was under the impression the zetroinx unit requires an obd2 connection as well which would make it messy and ugly in terms of wiring. If I was mistaken then it would be another nice option.
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That is good to hear you guys are going to make a cheaper option for just flex fuel sensors.

See, I was under the impression the zetroinx unit requires an obd2 connection as well which would make it messy and ugly in terms of wiring. If I was mistaken then it would be another nice option.
Nope, it's just Can H/L 12V switched + gnd. And obviously the 3 pin to the GM sensor.
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$600 to use it as a ADC/PWM -> CAN is honestly expensive. We have something in the works for those that just want a simple Analog input to CAN, including flex readings. For meth or PI yes, reflex is the way to go.

I'm not sure what you mean about the ugly and cluttered OBD2 cable, that's not for the zeitronix, it's for logging directly on CAN bus so we can do 50Hz+ with basic channels or 25hz+ with custom channels.
That is good to hear you guys are going to make a cheaper option for just flex fuel sensors.

See, I was under the impression the zetroinx unit requires an obd2 connection as well which would make it messy and ugly in terms of wiring. If I was mistaken then it would be another nice option.
You didn't watch my install video on YouTube
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You didn't watch my install video on YouTube
Lol no I didn't, only for the fuel filter I've been a bit busy these last few weeks.
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12.5 I think at wot, with very little variation.

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How high has your timing advance been on boostane? I wish we had husky 94 here. 😔

Btw, other than amazon where can one obtain boostane?
Just letting you guys know Husky has discontinued 94 octane in Canada, so there goes the only source of real 94 octane (AKI octane rating) in Canada. Before anyone asks no petro 94 imo is not good 94 octane, their fuel is extremely inconsistent and worse than shell 91. Chevron 94 in Canada also imo is absolutely garbage, yes it is ethanol free and that should mean really high quality 94 but in reality it is even worse than Chevron 91 found in the states. This was confirmed by GTR guys getting crazy knock on Chevron 94 in BC. IMO It should be called 94 RON instead lol.


With that said the only sources for good quality fuel is to do one of the few options:

1) Blend shell 91 with E85 at ~12% mix to get E10, aka 1.2 L of E85 (has to be 85% ethanol) per 8.8L of ethanol free 91. This is what I am going to have to do.

2) The least preferred method imo and this is octane booster, because of build up.

3) You could also mix other alcohols like toluene, or acetone, xylene etc. But I am not really familiar with this so do it at your own risk.


Alternate options is water methanol injection.
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Just letting you guys know Husky has discontinued 94 octane in Canada, so there goes the only source of real 94 octane (AKI octane rating) in Canada. Before anyone asks no petro 94 imo is not good 94 octane, their fuel is extremely inconsistent and worse than shell 91. Chevron 94 in Canada also imo is absolutely garbage, yes it is ethanol free and that should mean really high quality 94 but in reality it is even worse than Chevron 91 found in the states. This was confirmed by GTR guys getting crazy knock on Chevron 94 in BC. IMO It should be called 94 RON instead lol.


With that said the only sources for good quality fuel is to do one of the few options:

1) Blend shell 91 with E85 at ~12% mix to get E10, aka 1.2 L of E85 (has to be 85% ethanol) per 8.8L of ethanol free 91. This is what I am going to have to do.

2) The least preferred method imo and this is octane booster, because of build up.

3) You could also mix other alcohols like toluene, or acetone, xylene etc. But I am not really familiar with this so do it at your own risk.


Alternate options is water methanol injection.
I WAS using shell 91 with ethanol blended in even before i had bm3 and was running a stage 1 dinan piggyback. I switched to chevron 91 because a youtuber here in BC recently ran dyno tests im his audi s4 that showed chevron 94 was axtually better than shell 91 and the difference was at least 30 whp if i remember correctly. Ive never logged shell 91 plus ethanol coz when i got bm3 i just made the switch to chevron. But now im curious and i might try shell again. Im judt scared to put it ethanol because of my hpfp dipping its pressure. Right now im on boostane plus chevron 94 and timing has been okay but ive never seen timing advance higher than 8 with it ao i know theres power left on the table. Im pretty set at getting a dorch stage 1 pump soon so ill experiment with shell 91 again. Might even try e30 tune
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I WAS using shell 91 with ethanol blended in even before i had bm3 and was running a stage 1 dinan piggyback. I switched to chevron 91 because a youtuber here in BC recently ran dyno tests im his audi s4 that showed chevron 94 was axtually better than shell 91 and the difference was at least 30 whp if i remember correctly. Ive never logged shell 91 plus ethanol coz when i got bm3 i just made the switch to chevron. But now im curious and i might try shell again. Im judt scared to put it ethanol because of my hpfp dipping its pressure. Right now im on boostane plus chevron 94 and timing has been okay but ive never seen timing advance higher than 8 with it ao i know theres power left on the table. Im pretty set at getting a dorch stage 1 pump soon so ill experiment with shell 91 again. Might even try e30 tune
Sounds like youre on the right path.

In terms of Chevron I wanted their 94 to be good, but so far from what I keep hearing it is absolutely garbage.
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I WAS using shell 91 with ethanol blended in even before i had bm3 and was running a stage 1 dinan piggyback. I switched to chevron 91 because a youtuber here in BC recently ran dyno tests im his audi s4 that showed chevron 94 was axtually better than shell 91 and the difference was at least 30 whp if i remember correctly. Ive never logged shell 91 plus ethanol coz when i got bm3 i just made the switch to chevron. But now im curious and i might try shell again. Im judt scared to put it ethanol because of my hpfp dipping its pressure. Right now im on boostane plus chevron 94 and timing has been okay but ive never seen timing advance higher than 8 with it ao i know theres power left on the table. Im pretty set at getting a dorch stage 1 pump soon so ill experiment with shell 91 again. Might even try e30 tune
Well I guess this summer I will log both Chevron 94 and Shell 91 and see if Chevron has gotten better. Lets hope it is atleast as good as 91 and is somewhere in the 92 range so with some e85 spiking it hits atleast true 94 octane or greater.
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Well I guess this summer I will log both Chevron 94 and Shell 91 and see if Chevron has gotten better. Lets hope it is atleast as good as 91 and is somewhere in the 92 range so with some e85 spiking it hits atleast true 94 octane or greater.
Look up vancity audi on youtube and watch his tests on shell 91 vs chev 94 vs US 92 from washington and let us know what you think because at this point its hard to believe chevron is better than shell. Maybe its just a bmw vs audi thing where the ecus prefer different kinds of fuel depending on tuning strategies for each manufacturer
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Well I guess this summer I will log both Chevron 94 and Shell 91 and see if Chevron has gotten better. Lets hope it is atleast as good as 91 and is somewhere in the 92 range so with some e85 spiking it hits atleast true 94 octane or greater.
Although he did say that 94 chev mixed with ethanol was the best results. Kinda sucks coz he didnt test shell 91 with ethanol as well
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Just letting you guys know Husky has discontinued 94 octane in Canada, so there goes the only source of real 94 octane (AKI octane rating) in Canada. Before anyone asks no petro 94 imo is not good 94 octane, their fuel is extremely inconsistent and worse than shell 91. Chevron 94 in Canada also imo is absolutely garbage, yes it is ethanol free and that should mean really high quality 94 but in reality it is even worse than Chevron 91 found in the states. This was confirmed by GTR guys getting crazy knock on Chevron 94 in BC. IMO It should be called 94 RON instead lol.


With that said the only sources for good quality fuel is to do one of the few options:

1) Blend shell 91 with E85 at ~12% mix to get E10, aka 1.2 L of E85 (has to be 85% ethanol) per 8.8L of ethanol free 91. This is what I am going to have to do.

2) The least preferred method imo and this is octane booster, because of build up.

3) You could also mix other alcohols like toluene, or acetone, xylene etc. But I am not really familiar with this so do it at your own risk.


Alternate options is water methanol injection.
I got 94 last week here in Calgary, Husky's website still shows 94 available. You sure its gone, I googled and only found an Audizine post from someone in MB claiming so. The number of stations with it has gone down overtime, but I'm curious if it's actually disappearing altogether.

Edit, I see a reddit post from Edmonton as well.
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I got 94 last week here in Calgary, Husky's website still shows 94 available. You sure its gone, I googled and only found an Audizine post from someone in MB claiming so. The number of stations with it has gone down overtime, but I'm curious if it's actually disappearing altogether.

Edit, I see a reddit post from Edmonton as well.
Yup I'm 100% it's gone, I called a few gas stations and they said they have stock for now but once it's out it'll be replaced with 91. I emailed husky and they confirmed 94 is going to be phased out.
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Sounds like you should move to Florida.. haha
Haha I actually love it here in Canada so no plans to move.

The good news is that we have e85 at the pump where I am, so I'll be mixing with 91 pump gas to make e10 which should be around 93 octane.
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