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      04-11-2016, 10:03 PM   #155
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Well there you have it, corroboration of what many have said all along that the M4 completely divorced the ///M division from emotion and now the M2 has brought back the "soul" and fun factor back into owning a BMW. So much for being "in GM's pocket" in the Camaro comparo, when the very same reviewers said the M2 fixes the M4's deficiencies, so it's not a GM issue/ad dollar/conspiracy/page hits issue, it's a BMW product issue. I get the new M3, one has to admit that for a sedan that can haul 5, it is a very practical fast car (and looks perfectly proportioned). While people claim the M3/M4 are more "luxurious" than the M2 there is more noise, vibration, and creaking than my E90 with coilovers and cup tires. This is where you can't even call the M4 a luxo coupe. I'm sure the M2 is not any better, but at least it has no pretenses, it's a car that is fun and in amateur hands, more capable on most tracks in the US than the M4. With the M3, you do get practicality, with the M4 you get a compromised vehicle that is too large but has limited practical use, doesn't really have a quiet/relaxing ride, looks too long in the rear (the M6 looks far better despite the larger size) and isn't as fun to drive as the M2.

BMW is probably risking some cannibalization with the M4, but probably realized, as Chris Harris admitted himself (despite loving the F8x platform as he personally owns an M3) that the car is one that reviewers "love to hate", that they really needed to do something to keep enthusiasts and journalists virtually universally acclaiming an ///M division product to help the brand. BMW scores a partial win by staying in the "fun to drive" conversation with other enthusiast vehicles, and M2 owners get an all-out victory!

One problem I have with this review is it looks like they lifted numbers from the earlier M2 test and re-used them, and used the M4's M4 vs Camaro lap footage (doesn't look like tested on same day). Don't think it matters much, as shows the tremendous capability of the M2 (even Pobst was surprised), as has been shown in other publications, but a head-to-head should be car vs car on the same day. Would have been easy enough to do.
Umm, yeah that's an interesting take you have there.
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      04-12-2016, 02:42 AM   #156
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Greatest small car BMW ever made - Not M235i - easily E46 M3.
E30 M3 never quite cut it, then?
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      04-12-2016, 04:44 PM   #157
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E30 M3 never quite cut it, then?
Nope. Too slow.
Cool car, though.
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      04-23-2016, 11:43 AM   #158
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Maybe it's old news..I just read this on N54tech.com
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M2 owners get ready to install the JB4 in your precious car
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38826


Rumours M2 stage 2 in the making?
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      08-05-2016, 01:43 PM   #159
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Outstanding perspectives and compare pics!
While each car can get engine upgrades, this is also pretty compelling if traction allows the extra power.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/8/4...The-M4-7734825
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      08-06-2016, 11:04 AM   #160
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The M4 looks better than the M2 to me. The M2's rear appears chopped off.
True….and even so I ordered an M2 and not a M4 (which I could also buy if I wanted)… The M4 looks better then the M2…but the M2 looks better then the 1M. But that is all personal choice off course...
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      08-06-2016, 05:43 PM   #161
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Outstanding perspectives and compare pics!
While each car can get engine upgrades, this is also pretty compelling if traction allows the extra power.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2016/8/4...The-M4-7734825
Wow 426 and 457 are some serious gains over the stock 365hp and 369 ft-lbs
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      08-16-2016, 06:45 PM   #162
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I think it depends a lot on whether the car is moving - when sitting still, the back end of the M4 seems to go forever...it just looks unnecessarily long and oversized.

But I had a few good runs with an M4 a couple of weeks ago...and man that thing looked mean coming up next to me, behind me, and in front of me. That experience totally changed my impression of the car.

I think the M2 looks pretty good sitting still, but the 2 series generally has some odd/off angles. It will be interesting to see it in person and in motion.
I agree, I felt like I was stealing when the F80 was cheaper with more doors and just looked much better. I just thought the M4 was not very attractive.

However, seeing quite a few in the wild, driving - they look mean. I had a black one on my tail and then it actually went past me and have also had several other experiences seeing various colors and the M4 is mean as hell when moving.

Love the M2, but the front of the M4 is better and the CF roof to me is a big deal on the looks-front.
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