06-12-2017, 09:59 PM | #23 |
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This is a polarizing car period. To each their own. I love the performance, hate the interior. If you really care about numbers, why even shop german cars. GM and Ford make plenty for similar pricing that murder everything everyone else has mentioned. Buy those and move on.
The real question I love to ask in these posts are what is your driving level? Lets see what you can really do with 350-400bhp on the track or twisties. Otherwise 5-6-7-800bhp isnt going to do shit for you if you dont know what you are really doing. It really a my dick is bigger than yours bragging rights thing. See it every weekend I show up to Sebring or Homestead. 100k cars with sub 4 second 0-60s getting passed by 300whp miatas...I just laugh |
06-12-2017, 10:14 PM | #24 |
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Lol, I had one of those miatas. It was so much fun at the HPDEs. There was a lot of butthurt going on.
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The M2 has a single tiny turbo and i greatly appreciate this while driving and for this pleasure i forget the numbers i could get with a big or bi-tri-quadri-turbos or with an instant torque electrical engine
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06-13-2017, 08:42 AM | #26 |
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Maybe you should rent or buy both and do your own ring laps... then tell us what is and isn't a good time. Below 8 on the ring is plenty good.
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06-13-2017, 08:58 AM | #27 |
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I annihilated a 2016 RS3 on the Autobahn we started from about 50mph and he kept up until around 120mph when i started to really pull away don't know about the times but i believe BMW severely understate the times because of all the tests and reviews the M2 was always faster then the M4 on track.... and they can't have M4 customers complaining the M2 is quicker and cheaper!
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What's this gas mileage thing you guys keep talking about? My m5 was barely in double digits and i loved every minute of it
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OP is trolling. The Golf R is slower than the M2 to 60, even though it (sort of) has AWD. The Golf R is significantly slower than the M2 5-60. In every objective measure, the Golf R is slower than the M2, and it is also slower around a track. The fact that the 2018 Golf R is getting the 7-speed DSG, which is likely the same "s-tronic" transmission already in the S3, isn't going to change anything. It's going to have a slightly shorter 1st gear and a super-overdrive 7th gear for cruising and better fuel economy. The M2 is already faster than the TTS and the S3 in a straight line. It is (at least) even with a TTRS around a track (TTRS has barely managed understeer and plows into corners). There's nothing to see here. Pack up and go home. |
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Yes, the M2 has a better and stronger motor. The main point was one would have figured that BMW would have pulled off some better numbers around Nurburgring. The VW GTI clubsport pulled a ring time of 7:43 which is about 15 seconds faster. Would have thought that the M2 with wider tires and a stronger engine with supposedly a better chassis would have gotten better lap times. In a straight line though it seems quite obvious that the M2 would be the faster car. My point is that I wish BMW would have pulled in some better numbers as I really like the new M2. The M2 looks better and has a stronger motor of the two. Lap times and fuel economy wise the Golf seems to win. Depends on how one wishes to compare them I suppose. They are two different cars. This also might explain why Chris Harris said that the Chassis on the R seemed more compliant when compared to the 235i M in the comparison video. The fun factor the BMW wins he said and I would agree
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The VW clubsport was also missing a back seat. This is nonsense. None of which matters anyway, because I doubt most of us could get anywhere close to the 7:58 time on our own. (Or have the balls to try.)
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