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      11-20-2015, 08:15 AM   #67
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Looks like a Hyundai
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      11-20-2015, 08:18 AM   #68
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I will post live photos later.
Intended for China only for now its reaction will determine its availability in other markets, including popular sedan markets like the USA and India.
The concept in exterior and interior is around 90% production reality once the conceptual accessories are removed.
It is a UKL car but available with xDrive and also eDrive.
The car utilises many design features found within a BMW Sedan. Such as a three dimensional character-line and pronounced wheel arches as well as the typical dynamic roof line.
An M Performance model is considered using the upcoming engine that will be featured on the BMW X1, X2 and the MINI Clubman,Countryman and Countryman Coupe.
Think it would be well received in the UK for sure.
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If they made an M2 version of this I'd be all over it.
Based on these sketches and big front overhangs of this car, it will be based on the next generation's 2 series FWD/transverse engine platform (or current Mini, 2 series Active Tourer and X1). I did this render of a M2 GranCoupé based on the current 2 series (and 3 series) RWD architecture... I'm afraid there won't be a RWD M2 GranCoupé in the future at BMW...
Great job with this, wouldn't mind seeing this... Hopefully?
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      11-20-2015, 09:07 AM   #71
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it does look like an A3/S3 in profile and 3/4 rear view.

I like it though.

The pictures make it look larger than it probably is in real life.
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This thing needs to be RWD! So much potential looks wise!
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Based on these sketches and big front overhangs of this car, it will be based on the next generation's 2 series FWD/transverse engine platform (or current Mini, 2 series Active Tourer and X1). I did this render of a M2 GranCoupť based on the current 2 series (and 3 series) RWD architecture... I'm afraid there won't be a RWD M2 GranCoupť in the future at BMW...
Um, sold...
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Wouldn't this technically be a 1 Series?
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thread closed....

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The Tesla would be a 3 series competitor. This 2 series is tiny!
The two series is the same size as an E46. Our expectations just keep growing in the escalating size wars.
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IMO the only good looking "4-door coupe" in the whole lineup is the 6er. All the others look fat, bulbous, and awkward.
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Blah blah blah, styling cue this, styling cue that, curve influenced by swan farts...

What is under the hood!!!!! Probably be some turbo 4, FWD and flappy paddle bullshit. Might as well buy a Camry.
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Whats up with the tron interior?
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Its part of the ongoing strategy to have around 20 UKL based cars under BMW and MINI in which projection estimate that total sales of compact cars under UKL will be around 600,000 units for the Entire group.

The plan is to extend the 2er family allowing for the 1er to be more city orientated.

There will be surprises on the way to determine the balance.
It is initially intended for sale and manufacture in China. But they are developing the car for global response should the strategy change but early results are very promising in regards to initial reaction.
This car could also hypothetically receive a MINI twin which might have more global appeal without conflicting with a BMW 3er.

If you do want then you need to be heard, I mean really heard it should be ricocheting of the walls in Munich not like the Hamster squeak in a cookie tin that seems to be for an M2 Cabrio.
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If you do want then you need to be heard, I mean really heard it should be ricocheting of the walls in Munich not like the Hamster squeak in a cookie tin that seems to be for an M2 Cabrio.
oh yeah? Well Scott26 i appreciate you taking the time to post here and tell us your knowledge....it's nice of you to do so.

how about BMW make a PROPER small 4 door sedan with RWD and an inline 6 (turbo whatever) and some real compact, old school BMW dimensions and proportions and let it weigh, i dunno, 3200 lbs?

I think THAT would create waves.

This FWD Civic-wannabe with a BMW badge does nothing but tell people that BMW is just like any other carmaker....ordinary and unwilling to take risks. Honestly the new Civic looks better than this.

You can fool the CLA and A3 crowd with this....quite easily....but BMW is just becoming more and more ordinary by the day......there isn't a single NON-M car in the BMW lineup that screams "BMW!!" anymore...just a bunch of marketing exercises with fat people in suits taking notes.

There was a time when you could walk into a BMW showroom and pick ANY NON-M model and know that it would be a great car to drive.

now you can walk into a showroom and know that any NON-M car will be underwhelming and boring to drive!

Unacceptable!

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Who said its FWD? could be RWD
UKL is a front drive, transverse engine/transaxle platform.
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This thing needs to be RWD! So much potential looks wise!
Pretty sure the 2019 G20 3-series will be just the thing you're looking for.
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oh yeah? Well Scott26 i appreciate you taking the time to post here and tell us your knowledge....it's nice of you to do so.

how about BMW make a PROPER small 4 door sedan with RWD and an inline 6 (turbo whatever) and some real compact, old school BMW dimensions and proportions and let it weigh, i dunno, 3200 lbs?

I think THAT would create waves.

This FWD Civic-wannabe with a BMW badge does nothing but tell people that BMW is just like any other carmaker....ordinary and unwilling to take risks.

You can fool the CLA and A3 crowd with this....quite easily....but BMW is just becoming more and more ordinary by the day......there isn't a single car in the BMW lineup that screams "BMW!!" anymore...just a bunch of marketing exercises with fat people in suits taking notes.
You do realise that BMW as well as Mercedes-Benz and Audi in Europe are just car companies, albeit Premium but we offer basic specification or in America's case economy specification on the best selling BMWs. I think the Compact Sedan is very much about taking risks its a car that travels furtherest from its initial BMW comfort zone specifically for BMWs no 1 market for sales China.
It has a definite market target and demographic, its youthful, yet sporty and fits in well with the other BMW sedans in the portfolio.
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I doubt this is based on the F2x chassis, which means it's FWD. And looking at those front overhangs, that all but confirms that this is not a RWD car.

I'm sure it'll sell like hot cakes, but it's not for me.
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Very cool! I can appreciate the design and take it for what it is...a concept. Fingers crossed for a 2 GC/ M2 GC.
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