[akkando]

Originally Posted by cntzl

I guess I'm not the only one who thinks the seating position is a bit high. In fact, I think it's higher than my M4 (both at the lowest position).

It is higher than the M4.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by akkando

It is higher than the M4.

I didn't get to do a side by side comparison. Interested in why you think it's higher too. I was basing my opinion on what I remember from my M4 but some of my friends said maybe it's just in my head (I still think I was sitting lower in the M4).

[akkando]

Originally Posted by cntzl

I didn't get to do a side by side comparison. Interested in why you think it's higher too. I was basing my opinion on what I remember from my M4 but some of my friends said maybe it's just in my head (I still think I was sitting lower in the M4).

I'm just saying it because everyone who has compared the 2 series to the m4 says the seat is higher and they can't quite get it low enough. I've read it so many times in assuming it's true.

[M-Pilot]

Originally Posted by akkando

I'm just saying it because everyone who has compared the 2 series to the m4 says the seat is higher and they can't quite get it low enough. I've read it so many times in assuming it's true.

Thanks! First time hearing it so didn't know this was a common observation.

[Montaver]

Wasn't his best review, it's great at drifting but we knew that already. The whole M2 not fit for track didn't make sense at all. I suspect the M2 comp is so similar to the regular M2 its very difficult to come up with meaningful separation. I think if you drove them back to back there would be very little in it.

I'm a touch confused with the opening, when he talks about the competition badge needlessly ruining the suspension and adding ugly wheels which previous M car is he referring to? The M5 competition got glowing reviews all round.

Did love the little windscreen wiper adjustment mid slide..

[OGM2C]

I figure he's not referring to performance or handling when he says the old M2 isn't up to track duty - I would hazard a guess he's referring to the M2Cs significantly improved cooling capabilities for the brakes and engine - and I think its probably a fair comment too.

M2C not only has bigger rotors (and of course calipers) but it has brake ducts in the front bumper angled right at the hats, that's gold for folks that like to track.
Also S55 cooling is seriously no joke! Just 1 example is the intake temps - pop the hood after a spirited drive and sure you'll feel the heat of the engine but put your hand on the liquid-to-air intercooler, I swear it feels colder than ambient temperature.. idk how that's even possible?

[D22M2]

From the best modern M car to not up to snuff - lol. The more I watch his reviews the more I think he’s a hack automobile journalist (funometer 3000 -lol -gtfoh!)

nice driving skillz tho

[BlkSVT]

Originally Posted by akkando

So many reviews are like that. A lot of the Comp reviews bring up all the issues they had with the M2 and that the Comp fixed them.... but if you go back to their review of the M2, they didn't have these issues....

I get it, I hear that too. Yet, what I also hear/read is (paraphrasing obviously)
"we love the original M2. It's the car that brought BMW back to a proper M car"
"the original does so many things right in a world of boring numb overly polished pretenders"
"awesome exhaust note"
and on and on

I don't read any of these reviews as trashing the M2. Maybe it's the engineer in me speaking, but if I've designed the "perfect" product, one that can't be improved in some way if I have time to re-examine, then I'm outright lying to myself. Everything can be improved....

So what I really read/hear in M2C reviews is "the M2 is a great car, and almost unbelievably, when BMW decided to do a mid-cycle refresh, they didn't F it up! Amazing!"

My $0.02

[Karmic Man]

Originally Posted by cntzl

I guess I'm not the only one who thinks the seating position is a bit high. In fact, I think it's higher than my M4 (both at the lowest position).

Its quite similar to the 1M and sit higher than the 4 series...

The M4 sits quite a bit lower by default

[bplewis24]

The review feels a bit anti-climactic, especially compared to his OG M2 review. But I loved the crack about the wheels!

Full disclosure: M2C arriving in a few weeks!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Poochie

BTW, what's a "Yuba"? I didn't even understand the context it was used.. Even my homeboy Google is stumped :

Chris Harris said the same about the original M2 (June 2017):



His reference to the original M2 in this M2C review was puzzling, given what he commented in his Top Gear M2 review. Did someone spike his tea ?

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Thanks for the 'translation,' guys...

You know us Americans and our "Colonial English" doesn't always pick up on British slang..

Glad someone was here to clarify..

He said Yobbo - it means a an unruly, rude loud youth

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by wibbles

He said Yobbo - it means a an unruly, rude loud youth

First the word "Chav" and now "Yobbo" - It's like a second English lesson here.

Thanks.

[mr_lab_rat]

Compared to his other reviews this was a bit disappointing. It felt like this was done in 20 minutes compared to the M2 review. I'm not surprised that he didn't complain about the sound because he actually likes the S55.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by mr_lab_rat

Compared to his other reviews this was a bit disappointing. It felt like this was done in 20 minutes compared to the M2 review. I'm not surprised that he didn't complain about the sound because he actually likes the S55.

It actually sounded pretty good the video, no 'off timing-like overrun.' Just a clean, mellow sound..

I wasn't sure of that was the ASD or maybe the OPF filter but I liked how it sounded..

It sounded horrible in the Vehicle Virgin video in comparison..

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Montaver

I'm a touch confused with the opening, when he talks about the competition badge needlessly ruining the suspension and adding ugly wheels which previous M car is he referring to? The M5 competition got glowing reviews all round.

I read/saw some M5 comp reviews and 'they' say the suspension is way too harsh/bumpy for this kind of car. They prefer the normal M5 's ride/suspension setup.

Because of those reviews my dealer's CEO(which is an acquaintance of mine) didn't order an M5 comp to drive for himself but a normal M5....

Cheers
Robin

[switzerr]

That track! I may have to do a European track vacation.

[doug_999]

Originally Posted by bplewis24

But I loved the crack about the wheels!

Was my fav part of the review!

[3t3p]

Superficial review far poorer than many independent YouTubers
And I like Chris Harris

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by 3t3p

Superficial review far poorer than many independent YouTubers
And I like Chris Harris

Exactly, we all like to know about MPG, bootspace, iDrive features and seatbelts with //M colours plus the way it sounds: like sh1t.

I just hate the way he drifts that car easily through any turn there is on that superannoying track and the smoke it produces! I will call Greenpeace rightaway. Disgusting stuff!





Cheers
Robin

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Robin_NL

Exactly, we all like to know about MPG, bootspace, iDrive features and seatbelts with //M colours plus the way it sounds: like sh1t.

I just hate the way he drifts that car easily through any turn there is on that superannoying track and the smoke it produces! I will call Greenpeace rightaway. Disgusting stuff!





Cheers
Robin

I didn't know they had sarcasm in your region.. Learn something new everyday..

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I didn't know they had sarcasm in your region.. Learn something new everyday..

Ha, we Dutchies are the inventors of the windmill, dikes, cheese, pot, red lights and sarcasm.

Now please let me put on my wooden shoes and kick Chris Harris' a$$!



Cheers
Robnin