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haha so the M2 is lighter, sounds better, cheaper, better looking, and in real world scenarios just as fast as the comp.... interesting...
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10-23-2018, 10:18 PM | #47 |
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The entire car is very similar but there's lots of little upgrades and with a tune this car will be rediculous. You wouldn't be able to get as much out of a N55 tuned.
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10-23-2018, 10:33 PM | #48 |
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Let's all be real. As an OG M2 owner, and if money were no object, I would choose an M2C. It's a better car. Period.
That being said, I bought an used OGM2 at about 60% the price of a new M2C. And, I smile everyday I drive it. Not because of the price, but because it's a fun car. Y'all need to just enjoy what you have. |
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Both PSS M2 just had the benefit of perfect temperatures CG is a pro driver and drives a couple of laps to get heat into the tyres. All the info given in the mag shouldn't be doubted. Cheers Robin |
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After more laps the OG M2 can or will( been there done that) get in limp mode because of heat problems. That's very annoying to say the least( stock engine) So I just wanted one thing above anything else in my next M2: the S55 Each to their own Cheers Robin |
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10-24-2018, 12:42 AM | #52 | |
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... according to BMW Blog, that 7:58 time puts the M2 in some fast company. It beats the E92 M3's time of 8:05, and the 1 M Coupe's 8:12 lap.
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10-24-2018, 12:50 AM | #54 |
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E90M3 6MT was my worst M car of the five I had
Trackdays -brakes on fire -gearing too long - way too heavy in shorter turns Real life -heavy car feel -gearing too long -needs more torque -sound got annoying on longer drives. It's definitely not a crossplane C63 or Vette, those sound intimidating which I like. But I'd better forget about that car sorry. Cheers Robin |
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10-24-2018, 12:52 AM | #55 |
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It's like the M2C owners do not want to admit that the M2 is still an excellent car, and the M2 owners don't want to admit that the M2C in even better
As 1M coupe (ex)owner, after driving the M2 I told myself I would not want another "half-M" car with a not-M engine |
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10-24-2018, 12:55 AM | #58 | |
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A good car for the right price maybe. |
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and ... while you're at it name anyone that you actually know (face to face) that has had to replace throttle actuators or rod bearings on a "properly maintained S65" as opposed to Internet Warriors who apparently replace them everyday... "create fear and hysteria and watch your sales increase" any-town-usa-indy-bmw-shop
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Totally agree I've found every baby M great car and a step forward than the predecessor, and it's normal. But since i drove M2 and M3 F80 in the same day, my night and day dream was that engine (S55) in that chassis (F87). And now we have
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10-24-2018, 01:26 AM | #61 |
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If we are comparing track conditions then let’s talk about the OG M2’s sport auto Nürburgring lap which was done on a damp/wet surface:
‘With a lap time of 8:01 minutes, the M2 is approaching three seconds of its factory default. But the conditions in the super test were far from ideal. On barely one lap, the track was completely dry. In addition, the fox tube was heavily contaminated with binder. The grip level during the supertest was accordingly.’ You can bet that 9 second gap would be reduced greatly. Stock vs stock these cars are not worlds apart, where the m2c excels massively is the engine and it’s tuning potential when modified. |
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Quote from someone that hasn't owned or driven both cars. Traded my 17 in and I can tell you the cars are really worlds apart. Track times only tell a fraction of the story and reviews haven't given adequate justice to the new car either. Read my thread for more details, but you really get a lot more than the motor for the money.
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The throttle actuators have cheap plastic gears that strip and then the motor drivers burn on the PCB. It is VERY common. It will happen to you, just a question of when. Sounds like you haven't done very thorough research or you're just another defensive owner. Encountered enough on the E92 forums, thanks. I'm sure multiple law firms explore class actions when it's just "internet warriors". Also, the 6MT does still suck. Here, let me help you out: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=e92+m3+throttle...www.m3post.com Oh, look, 10 pages of results of which the first 6 are entirely legit threads on the throttle actuator issue. https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1253084 You should also familiarize yourself with the rod bearing condition thread if you plan to keep your car long term. I don't know anyone that owns an E9x M3 any longer. I don't know what your point is. It's an incredibly stupid argument to make that just because you don't know someone who's experienced a problem that it doesn't exist. Textbook logical fallacy. Last edited by chris719; 10-24-2018 at 01:49 AM.. |
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also look at my list of ///M cars (signature) over the last 13 years and not a single dollar has been spent on any of those cars for anything other than maintenance... thats my personal research ... add in 5 other "non-M" BMWs over that time and i am a fan of the brand for a reason ... why are you a hater? Go back to my original post and ask ... why Chris?!?!?!
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Your arguments are purely emotional and don't make any sense. Just because you haven't had any issues doesn't mean they don't exist. I don't know how to put it any more plainly than that. It is a great car, but it has a number of pain points that just don't exist on some of the newer models. You could easily spend that $10k difference in maintenance or repairs. Maybe my tone comes across as overly negative, but my point was to show that it may not be the bargain it looks like on the surface. Again, still a great car and Fire Orange is the best M color. Last edited by chris719; 10-24-2018 at 02:07 AM.. |
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