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      09-07-2018, 12:34 AM   #45
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I am running 18 inch square 265/35/18 front and rear with Ohlins + Apex SM10 18X9.5J ET22. 5 mm spacer front, 10 mm space rear. No rub.
Front camber -2.5. 0 Toe. Stock rear setup.
Are you running camber plates or is it possible to get-2.5 toe with stock set up?

I am hoping to run that set up without camber plates....
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Are you running camber plates or is it possible to get-2.5 toe with stock set up?

I am hoping to run that set up without camber plates....
My ‘17 is maxed out at -1 degree of camber in front on stock suspension. You might be able to get a little more, but not much.
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Alscks0414 your car looks amazing! Can I get your ride height settings and your wheel and tire specs?
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Alscks0414 your car looks amazing! Can I get your ride height settings and your wheel and tire specs?
Hey,

Thanks for your compliment!

My vehicle riding height is about 13 mm lower than the stock height. This is measure from the top of the wheel arch to the center of the wheel.

Wheels are HRE FF04 19's

Front 19X9J ET20 fitted with MPS4S 255/35/19
Rear 19X10J ET40 fitted with MPS4S 275/35/19
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Are you running camber plates or is it possible to get-2.5 toe with stock set up?

I am hoping to run that set up without camber plates....
Yes I am running with GC Camber plates just at the front.
But why would you want to adjust your toe setup? not camber?
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Yes I am running with GC Camber plates just at the front.
But why would you want to adjust your toe setup? not camber?
That was an error, no intention to mess with the toe in...nor the camber (beyond the range achieved without camber plates).

I am curious what max rubber is on 18x9.5 Apex EC 7 wheels with Ohlins and spacers but no camber plates....and I am hoping someone out there can tell me whether or not 265/35 18 tires will fit.

(plan B will be to go with 255/40 x18 which I have confirmed will fit....).

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That was an error, no intention to mess with the toe in...nor the camber (beyond the range achieved without camber plates).

I am curious what max rubber is on 18x9.5 Apex EC 7 wheels with Ohlins and spacers but no camber plates....and I am hoping someone out there can tell me whether or not 265/35 18 tires will fit.

(plan B will be to go with 255/40 x18 which I have confirmed will fit....).

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I have Apex SM-10 18X9.5J with 265/35/18 (Cup 2 tires) all around with -2.7 camber with no rubbing issue. 5mm front and rear spacers.

If you are running with no camber plates, chances of rubbing at full turn will be higher especially when you are hitting bumps on high speed turn at tracks. Camber is very important especially when you are planning to run yours on track.

I have seen ppl running 280/30/18 all around with camber close to -3. But I have never seen ppl running track focused wheels & tires with stock camber setting.
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Hey,

Thanks for your compliment!

My vehicle riding height is about 13 mm lower than the stock height. This is measure from the top of the wheel arch to the center of the wheel.

Wheels are HRE FF04 19's

Front 19X9J ET20 fitted with MPS4S 255/35/19
Rear 19X10J ET40 fitted with MPS4S 275/35/19
Looks nice. No spacers? It looks flush. Must be the ET 20?
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Hey,

Thanks for your compliment!

My vehicle riding height is about 13 mm lower than the stock height. This is measure from the top of the wheel arch to the center of the wheel.

Wheels are HRE FF04 19's

Front 19X9J ET20 fitted with MPS4S 255/35/19
Rear 19X10J ET40 fitted with MPS4S 275/35/19
Your setup looks great! Did you go with Tarmac black? I’m thinking about getting these as well what do you think is the max tire size for this setup without rubbing?
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Bumping this thread again. Any updates from the OP? Wheels look great I'm looking to go with the same setup but with 265/30/19 in the front and 295/30/19 in the back. I'm on KW HAS and am at the lowest setting 1.2 drop in the front and 1.4 in the back. Curious if you think it'll fit. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!

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Bumping this thread again. Any updates from the OP? Wheels look great I'm looking to go with the same setup but with 265/30/19 in the front and 298/30/19 in the back. I'm on KW HAS and am at the lowest setting 1.2 drop in the front and 1.4 in the back. Curious if you think it'll fit. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks!
265/30/19 and 295/30/19 should fit with no issue
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Anyone running 18 inch square set ups out there?...I am thinking of going with the Apex 18x9.5" and I'm debating between 255/40 R18 or 265/35 R 18...the guys at Apex seem concerned that with the Ohlins the 265 will rub even with a 5mm spacer....anyone running 265/35 x 18 square set up out there?
I just picked up 18x9.5 Apex EC7’s and they assured me I’d be able to run 265/35 square with Ohlins R&T + camber plate setup no problems. They actually have a pic on their Flickr page of a track prepped MG M2 running this exact setup (ET35).

I’m thinking with spacers I might even try for 275 square...
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265/30/19 and 295/30/19 should fit with no issue
Thanks for your feedback! Can you post more shots of your wheel setup with how flush it is to the fender front and rear? Thanks!
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265/30/19 and 295/30/19 should fit with no issue
Thanks for your feedback! Can you post more shots of your wheel setup with how flush it is to the fender front and rear? Thanks!
Hey Romeo,

I actually sold my car and she is no longer with me...
And wont be able to make any photos at this time
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265/30/19 and 295/30/19 should fit with no issue
Thanks for your feedback! Can you post more shots of your wheel setup with how flush it is to the fender front and rear? Thanks!
Hey Romeo,

I actually sold my car and she is no longer with me...
And wont be able to make any photos at this time
Sad day! What's next? Hope you got something exciting!

Thanks for the info on confirming the tire sizes while you had her.

Would you say that 295/30/19 is the max you can run with these wheels when dropped 1.4inches? Should have my wheels soon!
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I would not risk going over 295. As long as you are not fitting with spacers, you are good with 295/30 rear.

I actually had an incident my wife stuck at home at emergency at one winter day when I drove her X3 out. And she does not know how to drive manual...
And I decided to go back to F80 comp with DCT so that my wife can also drive in case I am driving her X3.. sucks here Canada Winter.
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I would not risk going over 295. As long as you are not fitting with spacers, you are good with 295/30 rear.

I actually had an incident my wife stuck at home at emergency at one winter day when I drove her X3 out. And she does not know how to drive manual...
And I decided to go back to F80 comp with DCT so that my wife can also drive in case I am driving her X3.. sucks here Canada Winter.
Thanks for the tip! Totally understand. Glad to hear that you're staying in the M family though!
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I just picked up 18x9.5 Apex EC7’s and they assured me I’d be able to run 265/35 square with Ohlins R&T + camber plate setup no problems. They actually have a pic on their Flickr page of a track prepped MG M2 running this exact setup (ET35).

I’m thinking with spacers I might even try for 275 square...
Are you mounting this set up on a M2 or M235i. Sorry but missed that.
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So been doing a ton of research and looking into ohlins for my M2C. As my set up will be predominately for street use, with occasional track visits. I was researching alternative spring rates as the recommended rates seemed pretty high and a few around here have gone with lower front and rear rates or just lower rear rates.

So I gave Ohlin a call and their tech recommended going with 70nm (400lbs) fronts (vs. 90nm (513lbs) recommended) and leaving the rears at 190nm (1,075lbs). He stressed that the rear rates were not too high and given the rear pressure and less undulations in the rear, you didn't want to have your rear dampers bottom out. Softening up the fronts would have a larger impact on the ride quality given the fronts had much more undulations. He further referenced that the e9x M3 kit came with 60nm front springs on an arguably heavier car, explaining that 70nm was not too soft by any means.

I'm by no means a suspension expert nor have I had much experience with Ohlins enough to understand the technical reasoning, so wanted to get the crowds feedback on the recommended rates above.

Thanks in advance!
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So been doing a ton of research and looking into ohlins for my M2C. As my set up will be predominately for street use, with occasional track visits. I was researching alternative spring rates as the recommended rates seemed pretty high and a few around here have gone with lower front and rear rates or just lower rear rates.

So I gave Ohlin a call and their tech recommended going with 70nm (400lbs) fronts (vs. 90nm (513lbs) recommended) and leaving the rears at 190nm (1,075lbs). He stressed that the rear rates were not too high and given the rear pressure and less undulations in the rear, you didn't want to have your rear dampers bottom out. Softening up the fronts would have a larger impact on the ride quality given the fronts had much more undulations. He further referenced that the e9x M3 kit came with 60nm front springs on an arguably heavier car, explaining that 70nm was not too soft by any means.

I'm by no means a suspension expert nor have I had much experience with Ohlins enough to understand the technical reasoning, so wanted to get the crowds feedback on the recommended rates above.

Thanks in advance!
Interesting feedback. For what it's worth, my performance shop have experience with R&T's (not sure if for M2's or other BMW variants) and they recommend I leave the specs stock. They said anything lower defeats the purpose of them and that the R&T by their nature are tuned more towards the street than the track anyway.
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So been doing a ton of research and looking into ohlins for my M2C. As my set up will be predominately for street use, with occasional track visits. I was researching alternative spring rates as the recommended rates seemed pretty high and a few around here have gone with lower front and rear rates or just lower rear rates.

So I gave Ohlin a call and their tech recommended going with 70nm (400lbs) fronts (vs. 90nm (513lbs) recommended) and leaving the rears at 190nm (1,075lbs). He stressed that the rear rates were not too high and given the rear pressure and less undulations in the rear, you didn't want to have your rear dampers bottom out. Softening up the fronts would have a larger impact on the ride quality given the fronts had much more undulations. He further referenced that the e9x M3 kit came with 60nm front springs on an arguably heavier car, explaining that 70nm was not too soft by any means.

I'm by no means a suspension expert nor have I had much experience with Ohlins enough to understand the technical reasoning, so wanted to get the crowds feedback on the recommended rates above.

Thanks in advance!
Interesting feedback. For what it's worth, my performance shop have experience with R&T's (not sure if for M2's or other BMW variants) and they recommend I leave the specs stock. They said anything lower defeats the purpose of them and that the R&T by their nature are tuned more towards the street than the track anyway.
The Ohlin folks are great and spend the time to really discuss suspension tuning from a technical perspective. That said, they stressed ride frequency over spring rates for street vs track tuning. He further made a point that I should leave the rear rates as spec'ed to enable the dampers to function properly and dampen as engineered; and lowering the fronts would be a good way to neutralize some of the stiffness. He implied the rear and fronts worked in conjunction for overall ride quality.

FWIW - He was far more technical than any of the three shops I spoke with on the matter, and rebutted a lot of what the shop mechanics noted.
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