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Getting out of your car is a no-no at the track. The only time its ever acceptable to get out of your car during a hot track is if your car, or you, is on fire (or in the case of some tracks, under water). You can't just get out and attach tow hooks, nor is it the job of the track crew to attach a tow hook. As for getting back on the pavement, thats not always the case, you could be stuck, or leaking fluid, in which case driving back on the track would either be impossible, or possibly further damage your car. Or quite possibly leak fluid onto the track, which you will be charged for. Not to mention you'll have a ton of pissed off people that will miss track sessions because they had to put down a bunch of quickdry to clean up your mess. |
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02-10-2020, 08:16 AM | #24 |
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The fabric straps look cool, but surely they will "flap" around and marr the paintwork if left in place for long.
Just attach the metal hook at the track, you can always move it front/rear if you need to get towed backwards... |
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02-10-2020, 08:21 AM | #25 |
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The BMW factory race cars (M235iR, M2 CS Racing) all use the nylon tow straps. I use the front factory hook because that's where I zip tie my transponder. Nylon strap in the back.
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02-10-2020, 08:57 AM | #26 | |
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Also, you cant just "swap it to the front/rear". You cant even get out of your car. Better to just have 2 of them and not worry about it. |
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I find the tow strap/ tow hook street driven look to be a complete joke.
No one that I know that tracks their car runs one of these on the street. Some will screw theirs in before the roll out of the pits at a HPDE, which is fine, but I just wait for the tow driver then screw mine in. Either way the street driven tow hook look is sooooooooo poor taste.....
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I don't see why not to run these on the street. You can get into an accident on the street to where you can't get to the tow hook to attach it too. Maybe you get rear ended and your trunk gets smashed and won't open, so you can't get to the tow hook.
Like the same conditions apply on the street as at the track that warrants running them while racing, right? Also better to have these nylon straps than the aluminum hook left in, because the aluminum tow hook is gonna mess stuff up if you hit something with it. Last edited by Anthony1s; 02-10-2020 at 10:59 PM.. |
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Weird, wonder why they would make that limitation. There's nothing keeping it from running on the rear I don't think.
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Sure. While you are at it maybe install a pair of Hella horns because a loud horn may prevent an accident right? Or maybe a fake hood vent because it may prevent the hood under it from taking damage from road debris?
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02-13-2020, 12:08 AM | #39 | |
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If anyone has any logical and real reasons to not run nylon tow straps on the street, let me know, because I don't see any downsides. Most of the arguments seem to be around "ppl will think something bad about me if I have them on my car while on the street" Which, I mean, worst case scenario... if there is something I visually like, I'm not gonna let other people stop me from enjoying it. Best case scenario... if it has a practical function to me, I'm not gonna let other people stop me from using it. |
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Has anyone had an issue with the nylon flapping about in the wind and ultimately scratching/burnishing the paint?
I just purchased a combo front license plate holder that switches to a rigid tow hook for track days. Very nice quality piece. |
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I haven't run mine yet, but I'll let you know. I've got ceramic pro 9h all over, so I'd be extremely surprised if something as benign as a nylon strap was able to scratch the paint.
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First, the straps are polyester, not nylon. I thought they were nylon in my previous posts, but I was incorrect. Nylon has been phased out of carrying uses for decades, in favor of polyethylene or polyester, which have more favorable qualities. My car is fully wrapped in Xpel, so I don't see scratching the paint as being an issue. The way the straps sit (for the brand I'm considering purchasing), the thickness of the folded section that's sewn prevents the strap from ever contacting the paint. It sticks out too far past it. Polyester and nylon are both UV resistant and mold proof. The mold you bring up on marina boat ropes is on the outside surface of the rope. Because they sit on the docks and never get washed. Same mold/slime that appears on boat surfaces if they aren't cleaned. A strap on a car is just as susceptible to mold as the car hood is. The resistance to UV light might be a concern and is worth exploring more... This study concluded there was no measurable change in nylon after being exposed to natural and artificial UV light https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/c30...d8b0905712.pdf This study says they saw polyester with a 30% loss in strength after 1yr of UV exposure then leveled off after that. Nylon showing a 50-60% loss of strength after 36 months. A 30% loss in strength would still make the two straps rated for 1000lbs more than our cars weigh. http://unirope.com/sling/exposure-to-sun-and-uv-light/ According to this article, polypropylene (which the web slings you refereed to are made of) is much less UV resistant than polyester (which the tow straps are made of). So the comparison you used isn't accurate. https://www.servicethread.com/blog/t...ster-explained Additional coatings can be applied to the strap to increase it's UV resistance, which can be periodically reapplied as maintenance. |
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There are some really silly arguments going on in this thread
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