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Currently 6MT | Planning 6MT again | 67 | 43.79% | |
Currently 6MT | Planning switch to DCT | 20 | 13.07% | |
Currently DCT | Planning DCT again | 25 | 16.34% | |
Currently DCT | Planning switch to 6MT | 25 | 16.34% | |
Currently A/T | Planning switch to 6MT | 9 | 5.88% | |
Currently A/T | Planning switch to DCT | 7 | 4.58% | |
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06-18-2018, 01:44 PM | #89 |
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I’ve been a manual only guy. At times nearly militant about trying to convince others they were wrong if they didn’t agree. This time around, with this car, I’m going DCT. Few reasons to follow.
1. I have a GT4 that gives me my manual fix when I need it 2. The M2 being a turbo will almost certainly be tuned and I believe the DTC is better suited to handle the extra torque. 3. My wife will be way more likely to drive the M2 DCT. In nearly 3 years she’s never driven the GT4. Now some may suggest this is a good thing. But convincing her to buy another car that’ll only be driven by me is a stretch . |
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We certainly agree in that these are techniques that many if not all MT drivers should employ.. but I will state again.. such topics are NOT taught at Driver's Ed.. which is the basic level of education of driving. Neither is actual double clutching.. unless it's driver's ed for big Rigs.. I bet most of the people that own a DCT transmission don't even know that one can double (de)clutch with a manual transmission..
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I had an m2 manual. I love manuals but turbo engines and manuals give slight delay when shifting. There is just a lttle hesitation it loses turbo pressure.
Now with the competition you can adjust shift times nicely with dct Let me try a DCT this time around. My M3 F80 has DCT also and it’s perfect. Maybe i regret it. If it was ZF8 or Manual. Then the choice is easy Manual. To much delay on downshifting with zf8. You want to feel the car shifting DCT on high setting is perfect if you want some fun! |
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06-24-2018, 07:48 AM | #95 |
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(this is just my opinion, not a debate. There is no wrong transmission - please get what you want)
Drove a MT F80 M3 yesterday. Here are my two cents: Pros: 1) Rowing the gears/more direct feel 2) Shifter position is perfect 3) Nice short throw 4) Rev-match is great 5) Clutch pressure is even and light 6) Saves $2900 Cons: 1) 1-2 shift is ok - typical BMW 2) Clutch pedal engagement point is too high. Maybe a clutch stop? 3) Not as good as Porsche's MT (not as precise - hard to explain) 4) MT F80 M3 Felt slower then my DCT M2 Every now and then I would drive my DCT and think - I miss the MT. Well, I was in the MT thinking, I miss the DCT. I have another MT car, so I will play in that. I switched my build to DCT. |
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06-24-2018, 09:15 AM | #96 | |
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Not that it matters because either transmission will be fine with whatever tune you throw at the m2.
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- Clutch stop fixes the high engagement point and it takes less than a minute to install. - Definitely not as good as Porsche's MT. - MT feeling slow totally depends on your shifting style. You may never able to shift faster than DCT but with quick shifting the difference is negligible IMO. Also, another big disadvantage of MT that I want to add is the risk money shifting. It just takes a single mis-shift to ruin your engine and transmission. It's impossible to money shift with DCT. DCT is a great transmission, I'm sure it'll still be plenty of fun |
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06-24-2018, 02:11 PM | #98 | |
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The Getrag 7DCI700 used in the M2/M2C/M3/4/5/6 is rated at 700N-m (516lb-ft) crank torque. DCT can handle some serious HP & Torque. Check out this thread: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1198154 |
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06-24-2018, 07:12 PM | #102 |
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My 2-cents worth. I was a MT guy. My first car was a 2002, then 320i/325is/etc starting in '74. I'm now on my 2nd M2, both DCT, and my M2 Comp on order will also be DCT. If I want to drive a MT I can drive my son's M240.
I agree with all previous comments that MT are more engaging and I also agree that 1-2 shift remain the weak point from my early days with BMWs. That said, with the current turbo cars, you just can't beat the constant flow of power with DCT. When I feel like it, I put it in Sports+, paddle shift it and let the tires chirp from 1-2, 2-3. It's so intoxicating. It's an individual choice whether you go MT or DCT. Just like your color choice. So no bashing please. Just enjoy your baby. |
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If I get one, which I'm still not sure, I will go back to manual. I got DCT in the E92 just because I thought it was better paired with the engine. It always gets a little boring tho.
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06-25-2018, 08:28 AM | #104 |
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06-25-2018, 11:56 AM | #106 |
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Also I think that the M5 market appreciates the ZF8 more so than the DCT.
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Also im a realitivly short person, so I had to sit pretty close to the steering wheel so I could operate the clutch, and this made my chest way to close to the steering wheel IMO, a Clutch Stop is a must.. |
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06-25-2018, 12:23 PM | #108 |
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I drove both manual and DCT. The DCT is a no brainer, it is very smart. There is no way anyone is going to get the most power out of a stick unless they really know the clutch and how the engine responds. I wouldn't expect that to happen on the first day.
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DCT in my M2 Going to 6MT in my M2C, easier resale. Solely the reason Im going to it. The DCT M2 is faster in every way. Sorry folks, just reality and I dont care about rowing my own boat. Never have in the 20 years Ive owned M cars or other similar cars. To me it is about speed and the fastest lap when I track. Ive never posted a faster lap in any manual car vs a similar car with some sort of auto. |
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