[Pilot-Z]

Originally Posted by 1mm2

I thought this was not an issue with the S55.

A one off?

Happened on mine with 2,400 miles on it...

[1mm2]

Originally Posted by Pilot-Z

Happened on mine with 2,400 miles on it...

Is this a prevalent issue on the S55?

[dtmurf]

Interesting reading and sorry your trip was spoiled.

I think you're 'lucky' to have picked it up directly from BMW at the Welt as opposed to a Dealer as I think it puts you in a stronger position (although I'll be surprised if officially, the Welt isn't classified as a separate entity or dealer on paper).

In your position, I think I'd have flown to Munich instead of Newark and taken the elevator up to the delivery center with a "Remember me from 4 days ago?" approach but it's easy to quarterback after the fact.

[Pilot-Z]

Originally Posted by 1mm2

Is this a prevalent issue on the S55?

I'm not sure how "prevalent" it is, but it does seem to be one of the main failures that can happen on this motor. I think most of the crank hub issues are on tuned cars making bigger hp. Judging from the metal shavings in the OP's oil, I'm guessing it's the bearing which is what happened to me on a stock engine.

[dtmurf]

Is it just me whose wondering what happened? Cannondale900 ...any update?

[Cannondale900]

Originally Posted by dtmurf

Is it just me whose wondering what happened? Cannondale900 ...any update?

I've been holding off on updating until I have something more meaningful to share as everything has not totally shaken out yet (and may not be until the car arrives at the local dealer). I've told BMW that I would rather we take our time reaching the right conclusion than a hasty one. We've discussed a number of possible outcomes that would make me happy and all parties seem receptive to those ideas so far. Those ideas include both receiving a replacement car and accepting a repaired car....plenty of satisfactory progress on working toward a resolution; however, I am reserving final judgement until there is a car in my garage and any other associated items are settled.

The car arrived back in Munich on Sept 20 and they are working on repairs which should be done shortly. I have been told so far that the motor is being replaced in Munich so that the car is seaworthy as it will be shipped to the US regardless of whether or not I choose to accept this car or find a replacement. BMWNA is working on obtaining details as to exactly what work is being done, who is doing it, and how it is being done. On one hand it satisfies me that the work is being done in Munich, on the other hand it makes me nervous that it is being done squarely in the middle of Oktoberfest/Unity holidays lol.

It's pretty clear over the past month that this issue has made its way up the food chain with my dealership/central region, BMW specialty sales, and the executive office. I've been patient, helpful, and flexible which seems to be going a long way with all parties involved.

I will definitely update the thread when I have something more concrete regarding exactly what failed, what they fixed, how they fixed it, how they are tweaking the ED experience, and how they handled me.

[dtmurf]

Thanks for the update, good to know thing are moving along...slow and steady likely wins the race!

[airborne777]

Originally Posted by Cannondale900

On one hand it satisfies me that the work is being done in Munich, on the other hand it makes me nervous that it is being done squarely in the middle of Oktoberfest/Unity holidays lol.

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Hahaha... with the beer vending machines that they have in the factory lunch rooms, I wouldn't be worried. All German produced cars have a fair shot of getting a worker with alcohol in the system!! :-)

Thank you for the update. This definitely is a sucky experience .

Good luck man!

p.s. I would definitely select the new car option when it presents itself. No way, i want back in that same car. You can always redo ED down the road to get this out of the system!

[DanG]

Originally Posted by airborne777

Hahaha... with the beer vending machines that they have in the factory lunch rooms, I wouldn't be worried. All German produced cars have a fair shot of getting a worker with alcohol in the system!! :-)

Thank for the update. This definitely is a sucky experience .

Good luck man!

p.s. I would definitely select the new car option when it presents itself. No way, i want back in that same car. You can always redo ED down the road to get this out to the system!

I agree. I would get a new car instead. A numbers matching car is worth much more than a car with a replacement engine.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by DanG

I agree. I would get a new car instead. A numbers matching car is worth much more than a car with a replacement engine.

What if the repaired car came with like a 10 year warranty and a bunch of M performance stuff you wanted? And a free trip back to Europe with a rented M car free of charge?

[DanG]

Originally Posted by akkando

What if the repaired car came with like a 10 year warranty and a bunch of M performance stuff you wanted? And a free trip back to Europe with a rented M car free of charge?

If you plan on keeping the M2, sounds like a good trade off. If you are going to keep it for only 2-3 years, I would go for the new replacement.

[M3GymNut]

I would get a new car no doubt about it. Hopefully you're situation gets resolved quickly.

[Cannondale900]

Originally Posted by akkando

What if the repaired car came with like a 10 year warranty and a bunch of M performance stuff you wanted? And a free trip back to Europe with a rented M car free of charge?

Have you hacked my e-mails or tapped my phone?

I'll share my final calculus when all is said and done but I keep my cars an average of 8 years and have no reason to think my ownership of the M2C would be any different.

The car was dropped off at Loginout in Munich yesterday and was dispatched to Bremerhaven with 622 miles on the odo. I last left it in Prague on Sept 1 with 557 miles so I assume there was some testing after repairs were completed, including the drive to Loginout. I expect an e-mail on Monday from Loginout with details for tracking the vessel, etc.

The dealership and BMWNA know that my acceptance of a repaired vehicle is predicated on certain items, including my satisfactory review of the work order and documentation of such work to the vehicle's records.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Cannondale900

Have you hacked my e-mails or tapped my phone?

I'll share my final calculus when all is said and done but I keep my cars an average of 8 years and have no reason to think my ownership of the M2C would be any different.

The car was dropped off at Loginout in Munich yesterday and was dispatched to Bremerhaven with 622 miles on the odo. I last left it in Prague on Sept 1 with 557 miles so I assume there was some testing after repairs were completed, including the drive to Loginout. I expect an e-mail on Monday from Loginout with details for tracking the vessel, etc.

The dealership and BMWNA know that my acceptance of a repaired vehicle is predicated on certain items, including my satisfactory review of the work order and documentation of such work to the vehicle's records.

I still think you should of gotten a new car, it's a large, faceless conglomerate with scales of economics factored in to make exceptions like these, based on the circumstances.

It really wouldn't cost them much to replace the vehicle, as they would repair the original vehicle and sell or fleet it but on sheer principle they should given you a new order.

However, as long as your happy with the outcome, that's all that matters. Good luck

[Cannondale900]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I still think you should of gotten a new car, it's a large, faceless conglomerate with scales of economics factored in to make exceptions like these, based on the circumstances.

It really wouldn't cost them much to replace the vehicle, as they would repair the original vehicle and sell or fleet it but on sheer principle they should given you a new order.

However, as long as your happy with the outcome, that's all that matters. Good luck

I do not disagree and have kept this in mind the entire time. A new car is still in the mix if the other option does not play out.

[AlpsRider]

I think that BMW would have made sure that the engine replacement was done right. That being said, if you sell the car it would likely reduce resale. Personally I would never buy a newish car that's had an engine replacement.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

I think that BMW would have made sure that the engine replacement was done right. That being said, if you sell the car it would likely reduce resale. Personally I would never buy a newish car that's had an engine replacement.

While it may marginally impact resale, he said he keeps his car for 8 years. I highly doubt engine replacement means much in real dollars at 8 years of error free use after the replacement.

[Cannondale900]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

While it may marginally impact resale, he said he keeps his car for 8 years. I highly doubt engine replacement means much in real dollars at 8 years of error free use after the replacement.

This is exactly my thinking - I never factor in resale value when purchasing a car as I purchase cars to use them up.

I did buy this car with the expectation of using it at the track 3-4 times/year or more. 8 years of track use will likely do more damage to resale value than a motor replacement at 557 miles in to the life of the car. Also, a 7 year/100k mile platinum warranty may very well yield more real dollars to me after the 4 year/50k factory warranty is up based on my use case.

I'm still waiting to see documentation on the repairs and hopefully a report on what failed at some point.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by Cannondale900

This is exactly my thinking - I never factor in resale value when purchasing a car as I purchase cars to use them up.

I did buy this car with the expectation of using it at the track 3-4 times/year or more. 8 years of track use will likely do more damage to resale value than a motor replacement at 557 miles in to the life of the car. Also, a 7 year/100k mile platinum warranty may very well yield more real dollars to me after the 4 year/50k factory warranty is up based on my use case.

I'm still waiting to see documentation on the repairs and hopefully a report on what failed at some point.

Thanks for the update. And agreed on all you said. I am following your situation closely as your my ED twin and I want to make sure you end up in a position you can be happy with.

As an aside, and to update you as well, my car just passed through the Panama Canal yesterday on its way to Cali. See the photo I got from the live cam yesterday attached.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

Thanks for the update. And agreed on all you said. I am following your situation closely as your my ED twin and I want to make sure you end up in a position you can be happy with.

As an aside, and to update you as well, my car just passed through the Panama Canal yesterday on its way to Cali. See the photo I got from the live cam yesterday attached.

That is exciting to follow your own car.

[Cannondale900]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

Thanks for the update. And agreed on all you said. I am following your situation closely as your my ED twin and I want to make sure you end up in a position you can be happy with.

As an aside, and to update you as well, my car just passed through the Panama Canal yesterday on its way to Cali. See the photo I got from the live cam yesterday attached.

Awesome! I should have a vessel name by Monday. The good driving days around Chicagoland are quickly disappearing. I have a road trip this weekend to St Louis for kids soccer tourney and really wish I had the M2C for it.....despite not expecting the car here until around Halloween anyway.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

While it may marginally impact resale, he said he keeps his car for 8 years. I highly doubt engine replacement means much in real dollars at 8 years of error free use after the replacement.

Yeah after 8 years it wouldn't matter much. My last car I expected to keep for 10 years. I ended up selling it after 3 years. People change their minds about cars...often