[chief1richard]

How does everyone who tracks their car to track get their track tires to the track. I have seen some trackers use small trailers that haul 4 tires and a tool box. I am considering a small trailer and trailer hitch just for tires. My goal is to drive to track on street tires in case it rains, and bring track tires for dry track.

[detroitm2]

Originally Posted by chief1richard

How does everyone who tracks their car to track get their track tires to the track. I have seen some trackers use small trailers that haul 4 tires and a tool box. I am considering a small trailer and trailer hitch just for tires. My goal is to drive to track on street tires in case it rains, and bring track tires for dry track.

You can fit 4 wheels and tires in the back seat. That's what I've done.

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

You can fit 4 wheels and tires in the back seat. That's what I've done.

That works with 18” track wheels/tires.

For 19s, I drop the rear seat, lay down and stack the skinnier fronts behind me, lean a rear against them on the rear passenger side, lay flat the other rear tire in the trunk and pushed up against the tires in the back seat, place toolbox right at trunk opening, and place helmet other items in the trunk.

That gives complete visibility out of all the windows and keeps the front passenger seat open.

[Twt]

Originally Posted by detroitm2

You can fit 4 wheels and tires in the back seat. That's what I've done.

There are several different ways to fit the wheels in your car. If you line all four up in the back, seat down, use some rubber wheels stops ( cheap at harbour freight) to wedge in front of them to prevent rolling/shifting if you hard brake.

[rich8566]

I can fit 4 OEM wheels and tires in the back seat of my M2. I stand them up with two on each rear seat. I do the same with my track wheels and tires. I strongly suggest you avoid the headache of towing a trailer.

[bentom2]

Originally Posted by rich8566

I can fit 4 OEM wheels and tires in the back seat of my M2. I stand them up with two on each rear seat. I do the same with my track wheels and tires. I strongly suggest you avoid the headache of towing a trailer.

This probably only works for shorter/average height drivers. I tried it a few weeks ago out of curiosity and at 6’2", there’s no way I could drive with the seat as far forward as is required to fit wheels with OEM sized tires back there.

The seats down option in an earlier post is something I didn’t try, but will give it a shot soon. Hoping I can make this work.

[Expert@ApexWheels]

Lots of cool info in this thread regarding this: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1314519

[paradocs98]

I have fond memories of unpacking my E90 M3 at track events. Open all four doors and the trunk, and out came a set of track wheels/tires, two jacks, a tent, two chairs, tools, etc. Guys in Corvettes would look at me like the circus just came to town. It was great. Blast around the track on Toyo RRs or Hoosiers and then put the Michelins back on for the trip home.

[jasonF30]

I've only been on a track 2-3 times and just ride on my street tires (MPSS). For those that have dedicated track set why not just drive on them to the track? Are they not street legal? Is the track so far you don't want to put wear on them? The track I go to is only 120KM away, doesn't seem like a lot of wear to just drive on them to the track.

[paradocs98]

Originally Posted by jasonF30

I've only been on a track 2-3 times and just ride on my street tires (MPSS). For those that have dedicated track set why not just drive on them to the track? Are they not street legal? Is the track so far you don't want to put wear on them? The track I go to is only 120KM away, doesn't seem like a lot of wear to just drive on them to the track.

Many reasons. True dedicated track tires (Hoosiers, Toyo Proxes RRs, some Hankooks) are essentially DOT semi-slicks that should absolutely not be driven on the street. They're too soft and sticky. They'll pick up nails and screws very easily. The last thing you want is to pay the entry fee and insurance coverage for a track day, and arrange to take the day off, only to find a screw in your tire when you arrive at the track. Also, you'll be putting heat cycles on the tires whenever you drive them to the track, shortening their life. And if there's any chance of rain on the way to the track, driving a semi-slick on the street is asking for trouble. Even worn-in Nitto NT01s are a nightmare in any kind of wet conditions.

A high-performance street tire like a Pilot Sport Cup 2 or PZero Corsa or even Trofeo R is okay to drive to the track, but something more serious like a true R comp? Bad idea.

[jasonF30]

Originally Posted by paradocs98

Many reasons. True dedicated track tires (Hoosiers, Toyo Proxes RRs, some Hankooks) are essentially DOT semi-slicks that should absolutely not be driven on the street. They're too soft and sticky. They'll pick up nails and screws very easily. The last thing you want is to pay the entry fee and insurance coverage for a track day, and arrange to take the day off, only to find a screw in your tire when you arrive at the track. Also, you'll be putting heat cycles on the tires whenever you drive them to the track, shortening their life. And if there's any chance of rain on the way to the track, driving a semi-slick on the street is asking for trouble. Even worn-in Nitto NT01s are a nightmare in any kind of wet conditions.

A high-performance street tire like a Pilot Sport Cup 2 or PZero Corsa or even Trofeo R is okay to drive to the track, but something more serious like a true R comp? Bad idea.

Makes sense. Thanks.

[paradocs98]

Originally Posted by jasonF30

Makes sense. Thanks.

[chief1richard]

Originally Posted by jasonF30

I've only been on a track 2-3 times and just ride on my street tires (MPSS). For those that have dedicated track set why not just drive on them to the track? Are they not street legal? Is the track so far you don't want to put wear on them? The track I go to is only 120KM away, doesn't seem like a lot of wear to just drive on them to the track.

Of all the track days I"ve been to it rains at least 30% of the time. Watkins Glenn NY, Palmer Mass., NH Motorspeedway, all in the mountains and hills. Rain is a regular event. Many times it rains for a couple of hours and then clears. Therefore MPSS for the rain, DTT for the rest. Many drivers wont even track out when it"s raining heavy, and they don't have rain tires, which is some of the best driving conditions to learn how your car handles. If I'm paying $300-$400 for a track day, I'm driving all day.

[DrKevM5]

Originally Posted by rich8566

I can fit 4 OEM wheels and tires in the back seat of my M2. I stand them up with two on each rear seat. I do the same with my track wheels and tires. I strongly suggest you avoid the headache of towing a trailer.

Headache? Easy peasy.

[Twt]

Originally Posted by DrKevM5

Headache? Easy peasy.

Just a quick update...after removing my back seat ( took 5 minutes) I can now put my wheels in the back and see completely out the rear window and have plenty of front legroom.

[DrKevM5]

Glad it worked out for you

[mcvaughan]

Inside the car. I even fit all 4 with a half cage in my M4. Everything I needed fit without issue.

[Anthony1s]

With the backseat removed, there's a dip that fits 3 tires back there nicely standing them upright. Then the 4th goes in the trunk.

[bentom2]

Finally had to figure this out for a California track weekend road trip. Key was to put the back seat down and stand the tires on top. These are 265/35r18 Hankook RS4 on 9.5" wide wheels. Roughly an inch or two to spare so some wider than stock staggered setups would probably work as well

I’m 6’2" and am able to keep my seat in my normal driving position.





Three tires slip into the width of the trunk pass through, while the fourth needs to sit further out and pushes the passenger seat forward a bit.

Visibility out the back is pretty much non-existent, but it’ll work for this trip. I’ll probably remove the back seat next time so they sit lower.

[Twt]

Originally Posted by bentom2

Finally had to figure this out for a California track weekend road trip. Key was to put the back seat down and stand the tires on top. These are 265/35r18 Hankook RS4 on 9.5" wide wheels. Roughly an inch or two to spare so some wider than stock staggered setups would probably work as well

I’m 6’2" and am able to keep my seat in my normal driving position.





Three tires slip into the width of the trunk pass through, while the fourth needs to sit further out and pushes the passenger seat forward a bit.

Visibility out the back is pretty much non-existent, but it’ll work for this trip. I’ll probably remove the back seat next time so they sit lower.

I have carried tires like that many times but they would shift on hard turns and I started to have some concern about what would happen in a rear end collision. I now remove the back seat ,so they sit lower and are cradled in the floor and run a heavy duty ratchet strap through the center hub and anchor to either the rear car seat anchors or the trunk floor d-rings. The tires don’t shift at all... it not a perfect solution but much improved.

[Anthony1s]

Originally Posted by bentom2

Finally had to figure this out for a California track weekend road trip. Key was to put the back seat down and stand the tires on top. These are 265/35r18 Hankook RS4 on 9.5" wide wheels. Roughly an inch or two to spare so some wider than stock staggered setups would probably work as well

I’m 6’2" and am able to keep my seat in my normal driving position.





Three tires slip into the width of the trunk pass through, while the fourth needs to sit further out and pushes the passenger seat forward a bit.

Visibility out the back is pretty much non-existent, but it’ll work for this trip. I’ll probably remove the back seat next time so they sit lower.

Yea, this is what I do but with the rear seat removed and only 3 tires in the rear. I use 265 and 285 widths, never tried putting 4 in a row so dunno if maybe that will work. I'm also not driving long distances as I don't track the car, so no need to strap down. I'm driving 1 mile to the shop to swap winter/summer tires. Though they do bounce around A LOT during that short trip. Maybe I should strap them down to prevent them from busting a clip on the exposed wires.

[bentom2]

1,000+ miles later and the tie down did its job. Tires shifted a bit in corners, but I could’ve tightened it down more to totally eliminate movement.

However, I definitely missed the use of the rear view mirror. My GF and I each drove our own cars and it was tough to keep tabs on her and ensure she didn’t get trapped as we moved through traffic.

Someone posted this Stern Performance rear seat delete kit and this trip is enough to sell me on it. Will try to order when I get home. Probably the cargo net too. Hopefully they’ll ship to the US.

https://sternperformance.de/en/home/...te-carpet.html