View Poll Results: How likely are you to consider another brand after seeing the BMW MP changes? | |||
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271 | 37.28% |
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124 | 17.06% |
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185 | 25.45% |
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147 | 20.22% |
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01-12-2016, 09:49 AM | #551 |
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Actually, the current Ford Focus is a highly engaging car. The F30, if not properly equipped, might not even be that good with a number of intangibles.
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Great Point. Completely Agree
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But frankly there are no grades anywhere near Detroit where you would have the need to do that. He was talking about situations like we have here in Colorado, where we give back 2400 feet in elevation over an 8 mile distance between the Eisenhower Tunnel and Silverthorne.
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01-12-2016, 10:00 AM | #554 | |
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Need to get the pads up to proper operating temp. These cars are supposed to be thoroughbreds, and need to be treated as such. Driving them around like grandma driving a Camry is not good for them. I should point out that improper torque of the wheel bolts CAN warp the rotors. Make sure who ever is putting wheels on and off is torquing the wheels properly with a good torque wrench. Most tire shops just blast the bolts on with an impact gun. Instant warp. |
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Upto 2015 Focus, Spent DAYS at Michigan Assembly plant Driving new Cars for Returnablility Checks!!!
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ETA To remove a snarky and uncalled for portion of my original response Last edited by kent11202; 01-12-2016 at 03:38 PM.. |
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It sounds like going to the lower coverage doesn't have a gigantic impact on the wallet, but it does make me wonder if BMW doesn't have the same faith in their product that they used to.
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We ALL hand torque every single set of wheels. Only time our shop sees warped rotors now is from wheels that were installed somewhere else. |
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Kind of reminds me of an incident that happened to me decades ago when buying new tires. As I got near home, I heard this God awful racket. Turns out THREE lug nuts were off their studs and banging around inside the hub cap* *For the younger posters, in the old days, cars didn't have aluminum wheels. Instead they had these shiny things that were pretty much hammered onto the wheels and covered the lug nuts. These things could trap stuff inside like rocks and lug nuts that came off. ![]() |
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I'm surprised your shop machines rotors at all. I've noticed more and more shops don't want to machine rotors anymore as the rotors are being made thinner and thinner to reduce weight, and they are saying that machining often is just a temporary fix until the first time the rotor gets hot and warps again.
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It is much more accurate to machine the rotors on the car, machining them on a lathe is not precise enough. When you do it on the car, it is taking into account the runout of the hub as well to make a surface that is running perfectly true. Acura says we can ONLY machine them on the car for this reason. I don't care how hard you drive the car, that will not warp a rotor. I have been heavily involved in racing for many years. Racecars don't warp rotors, and we literally get them glowing red. You may get terrible pad transfer from stopping the car with overheated hot pads, but not warped. Last edited by MightyMouseTech; 01-12-2016 at 04:04 PM.. |
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Weird, I enjoyed all the other cars I've ever owned in my life...and I've had to pay for all maintenance out of pocket...I lived. EDIT: Wait, that's a lie, Infiniti gave me my first oil change for free...but it didn't cover synthetic oil so I bought the oil myself and had them use that. |
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I am honestly glad they are covering less maintenance. I prefer to do my own maintenance, as I will make sure it is done perfectly. The less time my car spends at the dealer the better.
I don't even like taking my car to the dealer for it's "free" oil changes, only do it to maintain my warranty. |
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01-12-2016, 05:50 PM | #572 |
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The test drive was not long enough to be able to come to a good judgement on the car. I have had it for 2 months now and needless to say i am not impressed.
I am moving up from a Fusion to a BMW, upgrade on every other facet except steering. And now the Free maintenance takes a hit. I am not a track guy so should not affect me much but the fact that you are getting lesser and lesser for your pretty penny is bothersome
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