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Watching Shmee saw at the wheel is depressing, he couldn't even keep up with the pace car. You would think given the amount of nice cars he has owned and driven he would be better than that.
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I think the Misano blue w black wheels looks great... but HS w Black Wheels
The gold... that doesnt work for this car at all honestly... it doesnt fit the character of the car.
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06-22-2020, 06:51 PM | #25 |
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Shmee drives the M2CS
Do we need Chris Harris to show us the M2C can drift around a track?
Besides, I'm pretty sure Chris already decided what M2 was worth having to HIM. Does anyone really think anything revolutionary is going to be shared with anymore press releases, reviews or posted track times? It's a simple $25K question . . . do YOU want it? ///AVM |
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It's still early, that's true, but it looks as if a pattern starts to discern in early bird M2 CS reviews: 450hp is a lot of power to process for this compact car with shorter wheel base than M3/M4. Let's keep an eye on what future M2 CS reviews say about keeping the power under control: just right or unsettling ? Driving Cup2's in the rain is already something, but it looks like that will be sketchy with the M2 CS. Fairly speaking, I'm a bit concerned.
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I know someone who was offered a 20% discount by a dealer. He refused (though I considered that a decent deal).
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It's tire, for me, they wear out in less than 8,000 miles, I really don't see the big deal with consumables, just replacement them.. |
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And whether it makes sense from an owners perspective, that's a different story that can be debated.
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I don't believe overwhelming power would be the CS's claim to fame but just its subjectively better handling. |
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06-22-2020, 07:20 PM | #32 |
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Anyone that owns a tuned M2C will tell you that it puts out a lot of power for the original chassis and tires. We will see if the CS adaptive is good enough to handle the power. A tuned M2C needs coilovers to handle all that torque.
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Also, check the price of Cup2s haha - I wonder how many will replace with them (I wouldn't) |
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@lax01 ah I see what you mean. Yeah, that is a valid point. But I doubt BMW would put in the effort to create a whole new larger wheel for just ~2,200 units. On the other hand, maybe BMW should and just make it as a M performance wheel option. After all, virtually all components in the CS are available or soon to be available in some form in the M performance catalog (eg. Spoiler, mirror caps, splitter, etc.)
Also, in many EU countries, the M2CS have already been receiving "large" discounts and seem pretty hard to move. Also keep in mind the M2CS price tag is significantly higher in EU countries with additional taxes and fees.
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You do not have to get Cup 2s, as I think PS4S is the other option and is best suited for most. . . I think it is pretty safe to assume most M2CS buyers are going to spend most of their time on the road and not the track. ///AVM |
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06-22-2020, 07:35 PM | #36 | |
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Now look here, Poochie and imagine driving the M2 CS in the wet on Cup2's: M4 GTS in EVO Car Of The Year 2016: "I turn the wipers from frisky to frantic, transfer control of the DCT to the paddles and narrow my focus on the crimson flare of brake lights ahead barely penetrating the spray but almost semaphore active. The ease with which the M2 is keeping up - indeed, is all over - the car in front, without asking much from me, is a surprise. I'll reveal what those flashing tail lights belong to in a moment, but the first intriguing insight of the day is starting to form. "A perfect illustration of how big a difference it can make driving a car on domestic roads in Blighty weather is made by the BMW M4 GTS. As you'll see in the final scores, this is a car that widely split opinion. Many of us hadn't driven the car before, but Henry and Dan had both experienced it on smooth and fast Iberian roads that were baked crisp by hot sun. Both came back in love with the car. My first drive in the GTS was along a wet, undulating, twisty, crusty and very challenging B-road. Turning off the traction control would have resulted in disaster and a terribly embarrassing phone call to BMW. The car, so magnificent on dry, smooth roads, was a liability or these ones."M4 GTS and TopGear: "And in the wet?
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Then you can take your pick of a different model of tire, from there on out.. |
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Physically enlarging the quarter panel is not possible, at the plant where it was created, due to factory limitations. Artemis Can you please link the thread/interview where it discussed the limitations of the Leipzig plant, when designing the original M2, I can't seem to find it. Thanx! |
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What about 275 and 285 rear tires, which I assume one, or both is available with PS4S and Cup 2? ///AVM |
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Confirms why I don't mess w/the traction control for street driving where there's just too many unexpected variables that can take me out. |
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I have a stock M2C w/MPC. When I goose the gas, I need to make sure the car is pointed straight and that I'm paying attention b/c I can feel all 4 tires break free and loose traction for a few seconds and that's all it takes to be in the trees.
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