[sdhotwn]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Dave

You have touched on a common and unfortunate theme. . . it seems the more people spend on their cars, the less they get driven.

Look at the used Porsche GT variants typically showing up in the market. Almost always have less then 5K miles and fine print indicating, ‘vehicle has never been tracked.’ Incomprehensible from where I sit.

On a related note, you may recall I have one such buddy who owns more cars than he has garage space. His new Shelby GT350 sat in my garage for over the past year, save for the occasion I had to wake it up and take it for a quick spin.

On the topic of ‘I just want one’ . . . The sound. The NA engine and its linear pull all the way to red line. What a fucking car . . . still, nothing I have any desire to own.

So, what does my buddy do last week . . . he buys a Shelby GT500. I am out of garage space, so he found a climate-controlled warehouse to house the vehicle. J’Christ, already, drive the damn thing.

///AVM

Lot of agreement with this post!!! From the love of the GT350 sound (but having some desire to own) to drive the damn things!!!

One of my friends was the restorer/owner of the Lemans winning GT40. He vintage raced it for years before selling it about 10 years ago for who knows how many millions. Talk about drive it .

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

From the perspective of buying a C and then buying a new set of 763M wheels to "build" a C. Doesn't take into account that you can then sell the 788M wheels.

Yes. This topic is soooooo tired. I want a CS, my ego wants a CS, and I have the means so why not. In a different life scenerio I'd likely buy a pdk GT4. Why, well why not??? Why not an S, or GTS. Same reason for getting a CS. That's the version I would want. At some point I plan to get a 911. Why? Since I was a little kid it was my dream car. I don't really want one any more as a dream, but I still plan to get one. Why, because I can.

Drive what you want. Don't come to a forum to justify your purchases. Come here to gain knowledge and share the passion. It certainly helps to make informed decisions. More importantly everyone needs to be respectful of others. One size doesn't fit all.

Not really the same version or case . The GT4 718 isnt the pinacle of 718 , the GT4 RS will be the top dog there . Even if you get a GT4 you know that theres still a GT4 RS coming , and thats the best variant of all.

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

I plan to beat the piss out of mine.

Originally Posted by medphysdave

From the perspective of buying a C and then buying a new set of 763M wheels to "build" a C. Doesn't take into account that you can then sell the 788M wheels.

Yes. This topic is soooooo tired. I want a CS, my ego wants a CS, and I have the means so why not. In a different life scenerio I'd likely buy a pdk GT4. Why, well why not??? Why not an S, or GTS. Same reason for getting a CS. That's the version I would want. At some point I plan to get a 911. Why? Since I was a little kid it was my dream car. I don't really want one any more as a dream, but I still plan to get one. Why, because I can.

Drive what you want. Don't come to a forum to justify your purchases. Come here to gain knowledge and share the passion. It certainly helps to make informed decisions. More importantly everyone needs to be respectful of others. One size doesn't fit all.

Exactly what I'm doing for the last 3 weeks. Also I have the need to say, the manual transmission is amazing with this car, the entire car feels so different from my OG M2, it's all about the feeling, interior feels more special more premium, all that simplicity with the alcantara and carbon pieces, those seats, steering wheel, the suspension setup, it's so simple in terms of tech, you only get what you need inside, no fancy lights that change colours, no cameras on the grills for auto stopping the car if you have anyone in front of you, no lane assist, etc. just nice and simple, analogue dials, proper handbrake, by the way the handbrake as well feels different too, as for the transmission, I haven't really tried the previous F87 with manual, but I believe those carbon linings make difference too.

Many times in those CS threads, some people say that CS owners have the need to justify their purschase etc., this is not happening really. I am so excited driving that beast, it feels so different from my OG M2, and couldn't ask for more really. I do not have to justify my purchase, just want to express my feelings and experience with the car.

[rwemersonrw]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

Damn that blue is ugly, it'd put me off buying one altogether.

BMW should have given us a truly special color, and a car that was significantly lighter. As it is the Comp is stealing the CS's Fire. At least they put ugly wheels on the Comp to make at least some gap. 😆

I have to agree. I love the m2 CS and would consider it but that color is not my fav. Reminds me of when Honda made the s2000 CR in that ugly apex blue. Wish they made the CS available in hockenhiem silver. Just my opinion 🤷*♂️

[VisualEcho]

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

I have to agree. I love the m2 CS and would consider it but that color is not my fav. Reminds me of when Honda made the s2000 CR in that ugly apex blue. Wish they made the CS available in hockenhiem silver. Just my opinion 🤷*♂️

OMG that's perfect. Ugliest S2000 ever.

[rwemersonrw]

Originally Posted by VisualEcho

OMG that's perfect. Ugliest S2000 ever.

🤣🤣🤣 you just made me burst out laughing

[Davil]

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

Wish they made the CS available in hockenhiem silver. Just my opinion 🤷*♂️

Oh. There must be a magical genie in Munich

Love the blue. Love the silver.

Visual is a well known teal and brown guy. Nothing wrong with that. I also have no problem with people that wear socks and sandals. Be you.

[rwemersonrw]

Originally Posted by Davil

Oh. There must be a magical genie in Munich

Love the blue. Love the silver.

Holy cow! I had no idea! 😱

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

I have to agree. I love the m2 CS and would consider it but that color is not my fav. Reminds me of when Honda made the s2000 CR in that ugly apex blue. Wish they made the CS available in hockenhiem silver. Just my opinion 🤷*♂️

M2 CS body colors: Alpine White, Black Sapphire Metallic, Hockenheim Silver Metallic or Misano Blue Metallic.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by medphysdave

In a different life scenerio I'd likely buy a pdk GT4. Why, well why not??? Why not an S, or GTS. Same reason for getting a CS. That's the version I would want. At some point I plan to get a 911. Why? Since I was a little kid it was my dream car. I don't really want one any more as a dream, but I still plan to get one. Why, because I can.

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by RPM33

$30K over the MSRP would put the CS in 911 Carrera S territory which is a much faster car. Why would people overpay for a CS?

Trust me man I'm with you...just somebody with money to throw away I'm guessing. I hope it's because this individual thinks it's a rare car and the fact very few will be built.

[sdhotwn]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Trust me man I'm with you...just somebody with money to throw away I'm guessing. I hope it's because this individual thinks it's a rare car and the fact very few will be built.

For the rest of us buying CS's in the states, I hope there are a few of these cases that occur for the next few years. Wishful thinking I know.

[medphysdave]

Originally Posted by sdhotwn

For the rest of us buying CS's in the states, I hope there are a few of these cases that occur for the next few years. Wishful thinking I know.

I hope so too. Unfortunately I think 400 is too many for an immediate value retention. Some will get wrecked, which will reduce the numbers. Strangely I think the CCB option is going to help with value retention due to the polarizing nature of the desirability of the option. I expect less than 50% take rate for CCB. The CCB cars will be ultra rare, but that means there are less cars without CCB for those that don't want that option. Vehicles seem to retain their value when kept to factory spec. I expect CCB cars that are swapped to steel will not be as valuable. Modified cars will not be as valuable. At some point there are fewer and fewer factory examples and these will be desirable.

[rwemersonrw]

Originally Posted by Artemis

M2 CS body colors: Alpine White, Black Sapphire Metallic, Hockenheim Silver Metallic or Misano Blue Metallic.

I don't know why I can't get any information on purchasing a CS. I have to stop by my local dealer today so I'm going to ask about it. Thanks for letting me know what colors are available

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by rwemersonrw

I don't know why I can't get any information on purchasing a CS. I have to stop by my local dealer today so I'm going to ask about it. Thanks for letting me know what colors are available

• dedicated M2 CS thread: see here ("BMW M2 CS (2020): Wallpapers | Specs | Info").
• dedicated M2 CS in the US thread: see here ("M2 CS USA allocation: anyone ?").

[Soul_Glo]

I'm sensing a wee bit of discontent. It's like buying an M3 and being cut up you didn't get the CS so you try to make yourself feel better by making a video.

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by sdhotwn

. . . If the CS doesn't happen for some crazy reason with allocations, I'm genuinely not sure what I'll do. Lotus, Alfa, GT350, 991 Carrera S... Dunno.

SDH

I dunno what you would want either? . . .

What I can tell you is the F82 M4 still makes my head turn every time I see one . . . which, in my neck of the woods, is almost never. Rare species.

I just wanted an M2C. Zero regrets. Love it!

However, one reason it took me so long to pull trigger was because the F82 was constantly trying to pull me in. If the M2C were not available and I was driven to own a BMW, absolutely no question I would own an F82.

For whatever reason, this new Heritage edition continues to just sit unclaimed at a dealership near me. It is a sight to behold in person, and its performance requires no introduction. I believe these were limited in production to 750 units worldwide and come in at about same price as M2 CS (ASKING $86,795).

I know what I would want . .

///AVM

Edit: I do not care about 'limited edition' and all that other bullshit, so a non-factor in my pointing the above F82 out as what 'I would want.' For those that do care, well, there you go . . . a sweet-ass, even more limited edition (than the CS), higher ranking official in the BMW lineup. Same model year and approximately same price as the M2CS.

https://www.erhardbmw.com/new-Bloomf...4Y9C07LFJ77682

[F87EVO]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

SDH

I dunno what you would want either? . . .

What I can tell you is the F82 M4 still makes my head turn every time I see one . . . which, in my neck of the woods, is almost never. Rare species.

I just wanted an M2C. Zero regrets. Love it!

However, one reason it took me so long to pull trigger was because the F82 was constantly trying to pull me in. If the M2C were not available and I was driven to own a BMW, absolutely no question I would own an F82.

For whatever reason, this new Heritage edition continues to just sit unclaimed at a dealership near me. It is a sight to behold in person, and its performance requires no introduction. I believe these were limited in production to 750 units worldwide and come in at about same price as M2 CS (ASKING $86,795).

I know what I would want . .

///AVM

Edit: I do not care about 'limited edition' and all that other bullshit, so a non-factor in my pointing the above F82 out as what 'I would want.' For those that do care, well, there you go . . . a sweet-ass, even more limited edition (than the CS), higher ranking official in the BMW lineup. Same model year and approximately same price as the M2CS.

https://www.erhardbmw.com/new-Bloomf...4Y9C07LFJ77682

So you are saying that because the F82 M4 heritage edition made only 750 pcs , and its a ltd edition that its a better option than the F87 CS ? Just because of same price and because of the marketing edition? So what you are buying , its just a M4 Comp , with no differences at all . Its just another edition like Black Shadow etc. No special model or anything else , just a marketing edition. How do you even compare the two models ? :

I would only understand the 750 pcs , but again , everyone knows which is the special model and which is just the marketing edition . It was the easiest way to make money and just sell 2250 M4s in order to sell their final stock .

But again , its all personal preference. If you want it , just buy it . There is no wrong or right.

[///AVM]

Originally Posted by Turbomeister

So you are saying . . .

No, you vomited all that bullshit out of thin air . . .

I will assume English is a second language in Cyprus and it comes with issues related to reading comprehension.

Regardless, I get it man . . . it is either a CS or it is shit from your perspective.

///AVM

[rwemersonrw]

Originally Posted by Artemis

• dedicated M2 CS thread: see here ("BMW M2 CS (2020): Wallpapers | Specs | Info").
• dedicated M2 CS in the US thread: see here ("M2 CS USA allocation: anyone ?").

Thanks! I stopped by my local bmw dealer and he wasn't helpful at all he said he "thinks" they will get one and he doesn't have any info on it and that he'll know more in a couple of months. Smh 😒

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Turbomeister

So you are saying that because the F82 M4 heritage edition made only 750 pcs, and its a ltd edition that its a better option than the F87 CS ?

Marketing 2200 cars with a salty price-tag as "limited edition" (M2 CS): BMW M didn't resort to that kind of 'scarcity marketing' for the E46 M3 CSL, M3 CS or M4 CS and produced as many as production capacity allowed (but demand was relatively limited anyway because of the high price-point). A "1 of 2200" plaque would have been cringey.

"The M4 CS is not a limited series, just limited by production capacity. When we started the project we knew that it was going to be sold out anyway." (Frank van Meel - former BMW M boss) (source: here).

1383 E46 M3 CSL were built. The target of 1200 cars for the M3 CS was met (1263 cars). Not sure whether the target of 3000 cars for the M4 CS was met by February 2020 (through June 2019 2043 cars had been built).


(source: here)

[sdhotwn]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

SDH

I dunno what you would want either? . . .

What I can tell you is the F82 M4 still makes my head turn every time I see one . . . which, in my neck of the woods, is almost never. Rare species.

I just wanted an M2C. Zero regrets. Love it!

However, one reason it took me so long to pull trigger was because the F82 was constantly trying to pull me in. If the M2C were not available and I was driven to own a BMW, absolutely no question I would own an F82.

For whatever reason, this new Heritage edition continues to just sit unclaimed at a dealership near me. It is a sight to behold in person, and its performance requires no introduction. I believe these were limited in production to 750 units worldwide and come in at about same price as M2 CS (ASKING $86,795).

I know what I would want . .

///AVM

Edit: I do not care about 'limited edition' and all that other bullshit, so a non-factor in my pointing the above F82 out as what 'I would want.' For those that do care, well, there you go . . . a sweet-ass, even more limited edition (than the CS), higher ranking official in the BMW lineup. Same model year and approximately same price as the M2CS.

https://www.erhardbmw.com/new-Bloomf...4Y9C07LFJ77682

There is an unclaimed heritage edition at my dealer as well. The M4 doesn't do it for me (personally liked the M3 styling better than the M4 throughout this last generation). The irony I thought was the heritage is the same price basically as the M2 CS. But the bigger car, DCT only, etc make it of little interest to me. Doesn't have the bulgy hips etc of the M2 that also attract me to the "little" M.

The heritage sitting around, after my dealer had trouble getting rid of their M4 CS, and considering they have a wait list after me on the M2 CS also I think says something.