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The ordering guide for the US model shows a start of production as 03/2020, so they've probably been trickling out a few here and there for a while.
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It was for the model itself, but not for the US models at least to anything anyone on here is aware of at all.
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M2CS looks great, but it's way too expensive compared to the M2C. At the M2C's pricepoint, it makes sense to get the M2C over the equivalent Porsche (a base Cayman). At the M2CS's pricepoint, why the hell wouldn't you get a 718 Cayman GTS 4.0?
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GTS 4.0 is more expensive by 10's of thousands than CS when you actually option it. Doesn't have back seat for those that are interested/need it 1st and 2nd gear suck (too long to be fun legally) That's the super short version.
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I agree: CSL was exceptional M2 CS drawn from the Motorsport parts bank nonetheless, M2 CS is the ultimate M2 combining everything one could wish on an M2 and the future M2 G87 may be disappointing M2 CS is probably the last of a great line and as such deserves to join the club of the best BMW /// M
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That's the official start of the production model year for the vehicle. Because it's a 2020, production has to end in December. Whether or not any US models were produced between March and July, we'll probably never know unless someone starts going through VINs and checking for them. I'd guess that there would be at least a few though before the actual customer cars started coming down the line.
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a little history: CSL was worth 90 k € in 2004 It was worth 50 k € in 2008-2009 to be worth 70-90 k € today it is however the best / // M produced at only 1358 units so let's savor the chance to be able to enjoy an M2 CS without constantly worrying about depreciation! G87 M2 may make you regret M2 CS ...
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The depreciation may end up not being as high as the M2C, but to assume it will not is illogical. And I still believe that we still have not even begun to witness the true economic impact of the current pandemic as well, particularly on the consumer side. But wtf do I know. I'm an idiot. Disregard this post lol |
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Somehow I think Chris still prefers his 1M to his M2c
Regardless clearly this new M2cs is extremely good even by his standards
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If you can afford it, enjoy it without worrying about it being a 'collectors item' or depreciation due to mileage. Im just thankful they still make cars with 3 pedals. |
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M2C will keep the CS from retaining value in the near term. I believe the CS will level off in the upper 40s for well used models and low 60s for low mileage super clean examples. If you could go 5 years and still be at 45k, then we are doing pretty darn good. $667/mo. That's below the cost of leasing.
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I guess the M3. So that's not really fair is it? I wanted a CS but not for 50k euros more than my Comp cost me back in 10-2018. I still have to drive a CS but with my GTS tune now I'm good at the moment Cheers Robin |
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In Australia the GT4 cost 206k AUD vs $139k AUD for the CS. Even the GTS 4.0 is $179k AUD. There's not many options for the CS as it's pretty much loaded (cf DCT and CCBs) whereas the Porsche option lists extend out into to stratosphere. Perhaps that's why the CS is being distributed so globally and not predominantly into the US market?
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I think the whole lure of the M2c was the power to price point and how it didn't require you to spend Porsche money to get into a quick agile sports car (not to mention 6MT availability).
Now that there's a "better, quicker more expensive car" I feel like the M2cs elevates itself into a more expensive, more competitive segment that might work against it. Just my 0.02c |
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But any claim that the M2 CS is to the M2C, what the the E46 M3 CSL was to the the E46 M3, is flawed IMHO. BMW did quite some surgery on the E46 M3 to develop the E46 M3 CSL, shaving off 110 kg (1495 kg reduced to 1385 kg), never called it "limited edition" and made 1383 cars. This E46 M3 extraordinaire justified its 50% markup. One cannot say the same about the M2 CS. Great car, undoubtedly, but compared to the extra mile(s) walked by BMW M for the E46 M3 CSL (see for example here, here and here), BMW M took the easy road for the M2 CS and charged a flatteringly immodest markup when considering the M2C price (and discounts), regardless the marketing trick of "only 2200 cars" (817 more M2 CS than E46 M3 CSL or almost 60% more).
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