Charge Pipe fail...stock M2 with Akrapovic Exhaust.

HardanM2qa · 06-14-2019, 11:17 AM

After almost 17000 Miles (zero track days), the charge pipe of my 2017 m2 failed.
The only modification that I have is Akrapovic exhaust System.

It is worth to mention that the temperature where I live reaches 47°C (116.6°F) at day time, and I'm aware that the failure of the plastic charge pipe is common with N55 engine, therefore I'm planning on upgrading the following:
1- Charge Pipe (Evolution Racewerks)
2- Intercooler (CSF or ER or VRSF)
3- Catted Downpipe (Akra or Fabspeed)

Kindly share your thoughts on the best choices that you recommend to reach the best results with performance and durability.

Thank you all in advance.

David1 · 06-14-2019, 12:40 PM

When mine pops, I will just put another oem on.

BostonM235xi · 06-14-2019, 12:59 PM

I have all VRSF products - DP, Intercooler and Charge Pipe. Great fit, no issues and can't beat the price.

magha · 06-14-2019, 10:42 PM

All VRSF here too and no issues

CoffeeLife · 06-15-2019, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by David1

When mine pops, I will just put another oem on.

That's my current plan. Bought the VRSF charge pipes but couldn't get them to seal properly.

The only charge pipe I personally know that cracked was a 2016 M2. It had around 150 tracks days before it failed.

HardanM2qa · 06-15-2019, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CoffeeLife

That's my current plan. Bought the VRSF charge pipes but couldn't get them to seal properly.

The only charge pipe I personally know that cracked was a 2016 M2. It had around 150 tracks days before it failed.

I believe that the high temperature played a vital role for mine to be cracked this early.

Poochie · 06-15-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HardanM2qa

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoffeeLife

That's my current plan. Bought the VRSF charge pipes but couldn't get them to seal properly.

The only charge pipe I personally know that cracked was a 2016 M2. It had around 150 tracks days before it failed.

I believe that the high temperature played a vital role for mine to be cracked this early.

I still have a couple of years left on my Geico mechanical breakdown insurance, so I just keep these clamps below in my trunk to bandage up a random broken charge pipe, until I get to the dealer and get it replaced, under the coverage.

ddk632 · 06-18-2019, 11:38 AM

My CP failed at 33k miles, only mod fhen was the Akra DP w/SportCat

I would say get the Akra DP if you already have Akra exhaust, because matching.

I went with VRSF CP and Boost Pipe and Wagner Evo 1 Competiton FMIC as it is 5" and I don't have any tune. Also did DV+ and love the way the car feels and responds now.

I also did Pure Turbo inlet pipe at the same time.

HardanM2qa · 06-18-2019, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ddk632

My CP failed at 33k miles, only mod fhen was the Akra DP w/SportCat

I would say get the Akra DP if you already have Akra exhaust, because matching.

I went with VRSF CP and Boost Pipe and Wagner Evo 1 Competiton FMIC as it is 5" and I don't have any tune. Also did DV+ and love the way the car feels and responds now.

I also did Pure Turbo inlet pipe at the same time.

Your mods sounds great

I have ordered couple of do88 cooling products (charge pipe, turbo pipe, FMIC), will do Akra DP later.

dcmac · 06-18-2019, 03:46 PM

Active Autowerke CP here, works fine.

HP Autosport · 06-18-2019, 10:42 PM

VRSF is great at that price point. ER is the tried and true product for your turbocharged BMWs.

Can't go wrong with Akra, but Fabspeed is one of the top go-to manufacturers for Porsche tuners and their BMW product line has the same top-notch engineering and quality.

mike@x-ph.com · 06-19-2019, 12:53 AM

We offer all these brands

You cant go wrong with either option, i would pick Fabspeed over Akra downpipe (cheaper and uses HJS cats)

pooyab · 06-19-2019, 02:59 PM

My charge pipe cracked at 2k miles and I was down about 2 psi when I logged the car. Upgraded to ER charge pipes for both hot and cold sides. Also swapped to CSF intercooler.
I would recommend Wagner for downpipe.

mike@x-ph.com · 06-19-2019, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pooyab

My charge pipe cracked at 2k miles and I was down about 2 psi when I logged the car. Upgraded to ER charge pipes for both hot and cold sides. Also swapped to CSF intercooler.
I would recommend Wagner for downpipe.

GoneIn4Secs · 06-20-2019, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by David1

When mine pops, I will just put another oem on.

Why? It will just break again, risking damage to your engine, why not go with upgraded metal pipe that you know is not a weak link like the oem is?

David1 · 06-20-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Why? It will just break again, risking damage to your engine, why not go with upgraded metal pipe that you know is not a weak link like the oem is?

Never had one pop on me even on the 335's I have owned. But, I only put about 8k miles on my cars in 5 years. I only have 5600 miles on my 17 M2 so far.

06-14-2019, 11:17 AM	#1
HardanM2qa New Member 22 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW M2 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: N/A iTrader: (0)	Charge Pipe fail...stock M2 with Akrapovic Exhaust. After almost 17000 Miles (zero track days), the charge pipe of my 2017 m2 failed. The only modification that I have is Akrapovic exhaust System. It is worth to mention that the temperature where I live reaches 47°C (116.6°F) at day time, and I'm aware that the failure of the plastic charge pipe is common with N55 engine, therefore I'm planning on upgrading the following: 1- Charge Pipe (Evolution Racewerks) 2- Intercooler (CSF or ER or VRSF) 3- Catted Downpipe (Akra or Fabspeed) Kindly share your thoughts on the best choices that you recommend to reach the best results with performance and durability. Thank you all in advance.
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BostonM235xi First Lieutenant 130 Rep 314 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M235xi Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Nokomis, FL iTrader: (1)	I have all VRSF products - DP, Intercooler and Charge Pipe. Great fit, no issues and can't beat the price. __________________ Kiel McCaul
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ddk632 Chief Senior Executive Managing VP of Orange Sales 585 Rep 2,581 Posts Drives: 17 BMW F87 M2 6MT MG HBDGR ! Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Aventura, FL iTrader: (2)	My CP failed at 33k miles, only mod fhen was the Akra DP w/SportCat I would say get the Akra DP if you already have Akra exhaust, because matching. I went with VRSF CP and Boost Pipe and Wagner Evo 1 Competiton FMIC as it is 5" and I don't have any tune. Also did DV+ and love the way the car feels and responds now. I also did Pure Turbo inlet pipe at the same time.
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dcmac Lieutenant 439 Rep 468 Posts Drives: '18 LCI M2 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	Active Autowerke CP here, works fine.
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