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      01-09-2017, 07:52 PM   #1
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6MT Rev Matching W/ DSC OFF

Anyone know if its possible to have the car coded such that rev matching stays on even with DSC off? I personally really like the rev matching and don't appreciate it being off while having traction control off.
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Anyone know if its possible to have the car coded such that rev matching stays on even with DSC off? I personally really like the rev matching and don't appreciate it being off while having traction control off.
I don't think such a thing exists yet.
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Rev matching will continue even in sport + correct? Also, does the car "creep" in first even with the clutch disengaged?
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If you have the skills to handle the M2 with all the safety nannies off, then rev marching a downshift shouldn't be a problem or much work.

However, I do agree it would be nice to have a button for it.
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Rev matching will continue even in sport + correct? Also, does the car "creep" in first even with the clutch disengaged?
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So the car can never stall in 1st?
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If you have the skills to handle the M2 with all the safety nannies off, then rev marching a downshift shouldn't be a problem or much work.

However, I do agree it would be nice to have a button for it.
I get why bmw added the rev matching feature. The delayed throttle response, doesn't allow a quick blip to the throttle to bump the RPM and quickly downshift. I'd like the sport+ throttle response with all the nannies off. I don't drive with the nannies off on public roads, however I would welcome the liberties EuroMDM brings (soon to be coded). The perfect rev matching is nice, it allows all drivers to downshift like a pro, but I do miss doing this myself.
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Rev matching will continue even in sport + correct? Also, does the car "creep" in first even with the clutch disengaged?
yes and yes
So the car can never stall in 1st?
Stalling still occurs. I've only stalled in sport +, twice so far! Took me by surprise. (I may have been listening to the exhaust and not paying attention ) I don't have creep with the clutch disengaged.
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So the car can never stall in 1st?
Even on the steepest of inclines, I haven't rolled back....brake applied and clutch disengaged at red light waiting. When light turns green, engage clutch, then apply throttle.

A 15 year old girl can be a first time master at this process.
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Rev matching will continue even in sport + correct? Also, does the car "creep" in first even with the clutch disengaged?
yes and yes
So the car can never stall in 1st?
Stalling still occurs. I've only stalled in sport +, twice so far! Took me by surprise. (I may have been listening to the exhaust and not paying attention ) I don't have creep with the clutch disengaged.
So from a complete stop it'll creep and not stall but would stall if you're slowing down and then mess up the clutch engaged?

Sorry if I'm misinformed but I briefly read a post talking about the creep and I'm having a hard time figuring out how exactly it does that
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Rev matching will continue even in sport + correct? Also, does the car "creep" in first even with the clutch disengaged?
yes and yes
So the car can never stall in 1st?
Stalling still occurs. I've only stalled in sport +, twice so far! Took me by surprise. (I may have been listening to the exhaust and not paying attention ) I don't have creep with the clutch disengaged.
So from a complete stop it'll creep and not stall but would stall if you're slowing down and then mess up the clutch engaged?

Sorry if I'm misinformed but I briefly read a post talking about the creep and I'm having a hard time figuring out how exactly it does that
If you brake with the clutch engaged, you'll know. The car won't stall, it with shutter and your immediate reaction will be your left foot.

Creep would imply the clutch is still grabbing. On a bike with a wet clutch this would be fine, no risk of damage. In our cars, it would burn the clutch or put hot spots on the flywheel, I would think. Not sure if that helps answer your question.
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I get why bmw added the rev matching feature. The delayed throttle response, doesn't allow a quick blip to the throttle to bump the RPM and quickly downshift. I'd like the sport+ throttle response with all the nannies off. I don't drive with the nannies off on public roads, however I would welcome the liberties EuroMDM brings (soon to be coded). The perfect rev matching is nice, it allows all drivers to downshift like a pro, but I do miss doing this myself.
I didn't know there was a difference between euroMDM and usMDM?
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Rev matching will continue even in sport + correct? Also, does the car "creep" in first even with the clutch disengaged?
yes and yes
So the car can never stall in 1st?
Stalling still occurs. I've only stalled in sport +, twice so far! Took me by surprise. (I may have been listening to the exhaust and not paying attention ) I don't have creep with the clutch disengaged.
So from a complete stop it'll creep and not stall but would stall if you're slowing down and then mess up the clutch engaged?

Sorry if I'm misinformed but I briefly read a post talking about the creep and I'm having a hard time figuring out how exactly it does that
If you brake with the clutch engaged, you'll know. The car won't stall, it with shutter and your immediate reaction will be your left foot.

Creep would imply the clutch is still grabbing. On a bike with a wet clutch this would be fine, no risk of damage. In our cars, it would burn the clutch or put hot spots on the flywheel, I would think. Not sure if that helps answer your question.
This is the post I was referencing too.
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If you have the skills to handle the M2 with all the safety nannies off, then rev marching a downshift shouldn't be a problem or much work.

However, I do agree it would be nice to have a button for it.
You must be one of those dudes who remove your ABS sensors too, surely your foot should be able to modulate a brake pedal if you can drive a manual transmission, right? Of course, I know how to do it self. But the honest reality is the computer can do this smoother and quicker than I can and I'd like it on all the time.

I honestly don't think the throttle is sensitive enough in DSC off mode to give quick blips without mashing down on the pedal when doing it yourself, just my impression though.
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Rev matching will continue even in sport + correct? Also, does the car "creep" in first even with the clutch disengaged?
yes and yes
So the car can never stall in 1st?
Stalling still occurs. I've only stalled in sport +, twice so far! Took me by surprise. (I may have been listening to the exhaust and not paying attention ) I don't have creep with the clutch disengaged.
So from a complete stop it'll creep and not stall but would stall if you're slowing down and then mess up the clutch engaged?

Sorry if I'm misinformed but I briefly read a post talking about the creep and I'm having a hard time figuring out how exactly it does that
If you brake with the clutch engaged, you'll know. The car won't stall, it with shutter and your immediate reaction will be your left foot.

Creep would imply the clutch is still grabbing. On a bike with a wet clutch this would be fine, no risk of damage. In our cars, it would burn the clutch or put hot spots on the flywheel, I would think. Not sure if that helps answer your question.
This is the post I was referencing too.
Good to know. I see where you're coming from.
I just figured the engine had enough power to not stall while slowly engaging the clutch in traffic to 'creep'. I didnt know the ECU was throttling to partially control it.
Typical driving does require both feet for smooth operation.
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Anyone know if its possible to have the car coded such that rev matching stays on even with DSC off? I personally really like the rev matching and don't appreciate it being off while having traction control off.
I don't think such a thing exists yet.
Sure there is. D-C-T
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So the car can never stall in 1st?
Even on the steepest of inclines, I haven't rolled back....brake applied and clutch disengaged at red light waiting. When light turns green, engage clutch, then apply throttle.

A 15 year old girl can be a first time master at this process.
But apparently not some 30-50 year old men ..
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I get why bmw added the rev matching feature. The delayed throttle response, doesn't allow a quick blip to the throttle to bump the RPM and quickly downshift. I'd like the sport+ throttle response with all the nannies off. I don't drive with the nannies off on public roads, however I would welcome the liberties EuroMDM brings (soon to be coded). The perfect rev matching is nice, it allows all drivers to downshift like a pro, but I do miss doing this myself.
I didn't know there was a difference between euroMDM and usMDM?
This has been the case for several generations of M cars ..
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