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      04-16-2019, 01:38 AM   #23
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Endless ME20, put them on mine M2 Competition with optional brakes
Can anyone confirm the part numbers for the Endless ME20 pads for a M2C (2NH) are:

Front: EIP238
Rear: RCP118

Another thing I'm trying to work out is.. these numbers must be the codes for the pad shapes, as opposed to compounds, because the info I'm seeing on the MX72 seems to share the same part numbers?
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We have several Ferodo compounds available for the M2 Competition:

Front shape = FCP4712
Rear shape= FCP1281

You can see the shapes in the various compounds on our site:
https://www.essexparts.com/my-vehicl...ompetition/All

You can see a video and more info on the compounds here:
https://www.essexparts.com/brake-pads/ferodo-brake-pads

For heavy track use, the DS1.11 is an outstanding choice.
We sell more DS1.11 to our brake kit customers than any other compound, and they almost always keep coming back for more of them. They last a long while, don't fade, and they're easy on discs.

DS2500 (compound code H)

Although we always recommend using a dedicated race pad for the track, the DS2500 is one of the best hybrid street/track pads on the market. It features the moderately high bite and solid fade resistance of a track pad, with the relatively low dust and noise levels of a street pad. When used as a street pad, it can produce some squeal on certain vehicle platforms. During aggressive driving the DS2500 is known for its flat torque curve, which means as temperatures go up, the response through the brake pedal remains consistent. If you drive aggressively on the street, do some canyon runs, autoX, and maybe some light track duty on street tires, the DS2500 is tough to beat.

When used on high HP, heavier cars (2,800 lbs+) on the track with race tires, pad wear rates tend to be higher than on Ferodo Racing's other pad compounds. Under those conditions, Essex would recommend the Ferodo DS1.11 or DSUNO.

DS1.11 (compound code W)

The DS1.11 is one of Ferodo Racing's latest endurance race pad offerings. It has slightly less bite at high temps. vs their older DS3000, but doesn't decompose nearly as quickly under extended heavy use on the track. The DS1.11 is known for its extremely flat torque curve, which means that as temperatures go up, the response through the brake pedal remains consistent. The DS1.11 can be thrashed all day without having it burn up or fade, it's easy on discs, and doesn't have many of the judder or vibration issues that competing products have. If you want an extremely solid, all around race pad that will perform well and last a long time, the DS1.11 is the perfect choice.

Free Fluid

We're also running a promo on Ferodo Super Formula fluid...two bottles free (worth $50) with any purchase over $100. It has a fantastic boiling point that is higher than many other popular fluids on the market...I run it in my own track cars.
https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-su...e-fluid-2-pack

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We have several Ferodo compounds available for the M2 Competition:

Front shape = FCP4712
Rear shape= FCP1281

You can see the shapes in the various compounds on our site:
https://www.essexparts.com/my-vehicl...ompetition/All

You can see a video and more info on the compounds here:
https://www.essexparts.com/brake-pads/ferodo-brake-pads

For heavy track use, the DS1.11 is an outstanding choice.
We sell more DS1.11 to our brake kit customers than any other compound, and they almost always keep coming back for more of them. They last a long while, don't fade, and they're easy on discs.

DS2500 (compound code H)

Although we always recommend using a dedicated race pad for the track, the DS2500 is one of the best hybrid street/track pads on the market. It features the moderately high bite and solid fade resistance of a track pad, with the relatively low dust and noise levels of a street pad. When used as a street pad, it can produce some squeal on certain vehicle platforms. During aggressive driving the DS2500 is known for its flat torque curve, which means as temperatures go up, the response through the brake pedal remains consistent. If you drive aggressively on the street, do some canyon runs, autoX, and maybe some light track duty on street tires, the DS2500 is tough to beat.

When used on high HP, heavier cars (2,800 lbs+) on the track with race tires, pad wear rates tend to be higher than on Ferodo Racing's other pad compounds. Under those conditions, Essex would recommend the Ferodo DS1.11 or DSUNO.

DS1.11 (compound code W)

The DS1.11 is one of Ferodo Racing's latest endurance race pad offerings. It has slightly less bite at high temps. vs their older DS3000, but doesn't decompose nearly as quickly under extended heavy use on the track. The DS1.11 is known for its extremely flat torque curve, which means that as temperatures go up, the response through the brake pedal remains consistent. The DS1.11 can be thrashed all day without having it burn up or fade, it's easy on discs, and doesn't have many of the judder or vibration issues that competing products have. If you want an extremely solid, all around race pad that will perform well and last a long time, the DS1.11 is the perfect choice.

Free Fluid

We're also running a promo on Ferodo Super Formula fluid...two bottles free (worth $50) with any purchase over $100. It has a fantastic boiling point that is higher than many other popular fluids on the market...I run it in my own track cars.
https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-su...e-fluid-2-pack

Please PM me pricing for a set DS1.11
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Please PM me pricing for a set DS1.11
You can see pricing for all compounds in these shapes in the link below. Shipping will vary by location, but is usually in the $15-20 range depending where you are in the CONUS. Thanks!

https://www.essexparts.com/my-vehicl...ompetition/All
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We have several Ferodo compounds available for the M2 Competition:

Front shape = FCP4712
Rear shape= FCP1281

You can see the shapes in the various compounds on our site:
https://www.essexparts.com/my-vehicl...ompetition/All
When I enquired on the Ferodo FCP4712W DS1.11 pads, someone at Essex told me this was a MTO product, meaning there was a 5 set minimum to order. Is this still correct? I'm only interested in 1 set..
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You can see pricing for all compounds in these shapes in the link below. Shipping will vary by location, but is usually in the $15-20 range depending where you are in the CONUS. Thanks!

https://www.essexparts.com/my-vehicl...ompetition/All
Jesus and I thought PFC's were expensive...
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It’s not like the stock pads are cheap...
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Can anyone confirm the part numbers for the Endless ME20 pads for a M2C (2NH) are:

Front: EIP238
Rear: RCP118

Another thing I'm trying to work out is.. these numbers must be the codes for the pad shapes, as opposed to compounds, because the info I'm seeing on the MX72 seems to share the same part numbers?
Front is correct (EIP 238) but the rear actually is RCP077 (same as brembo GT 4 pot caliper)
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When I enquired on the Ferodo FCP4712W DS1.11 pads, someone at Essex told me this was a MTO product, meaning there was a 5 set minimum to order. Is this still correct? I'm only interested in 1 set..
The DS1.11 pads are made to order, but that just means that we (Essex) has to order more than five sets to purchase them. The retail customer (you) doesn't have to order more than one. We have the Ferodo DS1.11 for the M2 Competition in stock and ready to ship, along with the Ferodo DS2500.

Front DS1.11 for the M2 Comp= https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-fc...111-brake-pads

Rear DS1.11 for the M2 Comp= https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-ds1-11-brake-pads524

We're also running a promo on Ferodo Super Formula Brake Fluid...two bottles free with any $100 purchase:
https://www.essexparts.com/ferodo-su...e-fluid-2-pack
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If you're all after track pads, has anyone considered just buying the BMW Competition items?

Unlikely to be cheap, might squeal and/or generate prodigious amounts of dust, but are guaranteed to work...

Edit: See here.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=03_0107

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Rdd Japan has stock replacement...they specialise in racing brakes and Brembo brake replacement parts.

Rotor is made from high carbon steel with carbon level at 35% or higher. Less than 5 microns surface accuracy.

Front rotor (400mm x 36mm) 12.8Kg (-1.2Kg from stock each)
Rear rotor (380mm x 28mm) 7.8Kg (-2.1Kg from stock each)

I believe there are Rdd resellers in the US

Pictures are sourced from a Japanese website(https://macars.net/blog/archive/20614)
Nearly $6,000 for rotors that save 15lbs?

HRE R101LW cost $8800 and save 34lbs. They also save the weight further from the center of rotation.

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I've run over 15 different brands and compounds over the last 25+ yrs of track driving. I've always liked the Porterfield R4's for there modulation, reasonable price and when cold don't eat rotors like most track pads.

The other are Carbotech XP12's & XP 10's.

Rotor friendly when cold is not easy to find in a track pad.

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I've run over 15 different brands and compounds over the last 25+ yrs of track driving. I've always liked the Porterfield R4's for there modulation, reasonable price and when cold don't eat rotors like most track pads.

The other are Carbotech XP12's & XP 10's.

Rotor friendly when cold is not easy to find in a track pad.

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What's your opinion about Pagid RS-29 then? I always found this a great pad in testing different compounds...
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I am running carbotech xp20 front and xp12 rear.

They are excellent. I used to use pfc01's on previous cars and loved them, but these carbotechs are now my new favorite. Much cheaper than pagids and easy to get.

Noisy on the street (not a surprise)
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What's your opinion about Pagid RS-29 then? I always found this a great pad in testing different compounds...
Pagid is one of the few pads I don't have any direct experience with. Sorry
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Front is correct (EIP 238) but the rear actually is RCP077 (same as brembo GT 4 pot caliper)
You sure about this? I think it should be EIP127 for the rear as this has the same back plate dimensions but has the brake sensor provision. Also the pad thickness is closer ie: oem 16.68mm and 17mm for the EIP217. The 077 is 18mm..

https://endless-sport.co.jp/products...EIP/EIP127.pdf
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I've run over 15 different brands and compounds over the last 25+ yrs of track driving. I've always liked the Porterfield R4's for there modulation, reasonable price and when cold don't eat rotors like most track pads.

The other are Carbotech XP12's & XP 10's.

Rotor friendly when cold is not easy to find in a track pad.

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Porterfield R4 is another good choice for track pads. R4S is excellent for the street.
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