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https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/77FBFE16C0E662EA8025882F0048BFEF/$File/wepp-cdtt2a.pdf if this doesn't work I just googled cdtt2a and it was the first thing that showed up. Interesting, kv100 is even lower than PPE - and with the higher pour point temp I wonder if HTHS is affected negatively. Also no porsche a40 as of yet, I wonder if this will change in the future. Can't wait to learn more about this oil and maybe even get a VOA.
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They didn't change their 0W30. Idk about HTHS. Castrol doesn't utilize GTL, which always returns good HTHS. Unless they used bit of Esters like M1. But, they say this oil is LL01, so highly doubt there is ester. |
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Yeah that's unfortunate, I was hoping it would be another really good option for BMWs and a step forward in oil technology.
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I'm just curious how it stacks up to PPE, and if it will be available in 5L jugs here in Canada.
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I wouldn't be surprised if HTHS is still around 3.7. But things I would look for is shear stability, flash point stability etc. We will see overtime what UOA says. I have UOA of 0W30, old 0W40, so might run it just to see. |
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I'm surprised Amsoil doesn't have a specific oil for this car. They have oils for almost everything under the sun. Buy engine oil from them for my Viper and S1000RR bikes (13 and 21).
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Amsoil is super overrated. Nothing special except hype. They are a smaller company and don't have the engineering resources that XOM, Shell, etc. have.
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Why do you think it's overrated? |
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I suppose they do not have approval in the European market for anti-pollution regulations, that does not make the oil bad, but quite the opposite.
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Manufacturers approvals don't have anything to do with markets. LL01 or any other BMW or VW or MB etc. approvals, are valid everywhere. Actually it is US market bcs. CAFE requirements that is sensitive on grade used due to HTHS being contributing factor to consumption bcs. resistance. Approvals are all about wear, deposits, oxidation, stay in grade requirement etc. I wrote about this extensively here in various threads so you can research. And yes, Amsoil is just another oil, that unlike many other oils, lack official approvals. It has good products. But, far from being "better " than anything you can pick up in Wal Mart for BMW. |
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So I'd say he knows what he's talking about.......... Btw amsoil told me a while back when I asked, they don't have certifications because it's was too expensive to get their oils certified and that's why they stopped. But in reality I believe oil certifications only cost a couple hundred bucks to perform (as per bitog), and since they don't have it I'd say it's not a monetary concern but rather that their oils simply cannot pass the stringent tests set out by the oem's. Btw i personally don't think a small company like ams oil is going to be able to out formulate billion dollar companies like shell and mobil1 who also take their learnings from formula 1 and put it into their commercial oils. Look at shell, they developed GTL tech with Ferrari in F1 and now it's in their street oils. https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/h...rived-oil.html
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Interesting article about Shell GTL oils. |
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Even redline, who used to make the same excuse about not needing manufacturer specs, now makes OEM approved oil. That should show how important these certifications really are. Some oem specs like porsche A40 is an extremely strenuous long duration test and hard to obtain. Thus if the oil cannot get it, clearly it isn't going to be as robust as an oil with it, and this directly influences how good an oil is. So if an oil doesn't have it - it doesn't mean it is bad, but it is highly likely the oil isn't going to be as good as a fully certified oil. There are exceptions like race oil, but this doesn't apply when when we are talking about oils that are made to mimic having these real certifications, aka oils that are "applicable to bmw ll01, porsche a40, mb229.5" which are clearly not race oils. So having these certifications just gives it a good baseline to start from, not having it at all isn't the greatest sign. It could mean the oil has a poor NOACK score because the base stock is bad, it could be because the oil doesn't have the best oxidation resistance, it could be because the oil doesn't meet the other base stock requirements etc. Also just because bmw made the oil requirements doesn't mean it is the best. It is a very stringent baseline that is good to have, the different additives and developments made on top of that is what makes an oil superb. There are alot of oils that do have full bmw certifications and porsche certifications and mercedes certifications, and they still are just average, because their additive packages and base stock is just average.
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You should find someone who knows to install that cover. It is ok to admit that you need help doing it.
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But right off the top it's likely to be an s55 as it has dual HPFP's. Failure on this engine can be due to many reasons other than oil, such as the infamous crank hub failure. Not sure what this has to do with ll01 approvals, seeing there are vast number of ll01 approved oils to chose from that have vastly better VOA and UOA test results vs. amsoil.
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