[BLK235iNJ]

I wonder if any vendors are getting pre-released specs to begin working the aftermarket options. The m3/4 with a tune are beasts I'm hoping this car has the same potential. Dinan_Engineering are you guys getting any info on this car?

[W///]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

The real M2 will be wide around the hips too!

As I said... rear CF spoiler and spacers would absolutely be my first mods

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by W///

As I said... rear CF spoiler and spacers would absolutely be my first mods

Lucky you, I haven't even decided color yet... I want them all but can't afford four cars!

[W///]

Originally Posted by Rossifumi

Lucky you, I haven't even decided color yet... I want them all but can't afford four cars!

That's probably the easiest decision as far the M2 is concerned. It's LBB and I'm not even going to consider the others. Different story for the F80 though.

Technically, I haven't decided on the M2 yet, although it's definitely leading the pack. But who knows, BMW could come out and price it too close to the M3. Or they could even come out and not use the EPS system from the M3/4, which would probably be a deal breaker for me.

Most likely, I'll wait until Summer 2017. By then, M2 LCI should be coming out as well as the ZCP for the M3. I did put my name down for the M2 just in case though.

[BLK235iNJ]

Wouldn't it be nice if they didn't use the electric steering in the M2....

[phoenixbmwlife]

What I want to see in the reveal of this car is a bigger rear spoiler, a U.S. curb weight of no more than 3432 lbs, a cleaner smaller front bumper design (compared to this render) a CF double bubble roof, CCB option, and 395HP/365TQ.

Oh snap! There I go dreaming again...What is wrong with me? Sorry folks I'm going back to my corner.

[BLK235iNJ]

More TQ would be nice... My car is a Dinan s2 with an advertised 455TQ and it feels amazing

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

What I want to see in the reveal of this car is a bigger rear spoiler, a U.S. curb weight of no more than 3432 lbs, a cleaner smaller front bumper design (compared to this render) a CF double bubble roof, CCB option, and 395HP/365TQ.

Oh snap! There I go dreaming again...What is wrong with me? Sorry folks I'm going back to my corner.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

What I want to see in the reveal of this car is a bigger rear spoiler, a U.S. curb weight of no more than 3432 lbs, a cleaner smaller front bumper design (compared to this render) a CF double bubble roof, CCB option, and 395HP/365TQ.

Oh snap! There I go dreaming again...What is wrong with me? Sorry folks I'm going back to my corner.

Sounds like when you wake up..... forget going to the corner... you should go buy an M4...

[W///]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

What I want to see in the reveal of this car is a bigger rear spoiler, a U.S. curb weight of no more than 3432 lbs, a cleaner smaller front bumper design (compared to this render) a CF double bubble roof, CCB option, and 395HP/365TQ.

Oh snap! There I go dreaming again...What is wrong with me? Sorry folks I'm going back to my corner.

If you can let a few things slide, then the M2 really isn't far from what you are asking for.
- Are you willing to spend $8000 on CCB? Let's say the car starts at $55k (which I doubt it will), that's 14% of the total price of the car on brakes. That's asinine IMHO
- Would you really skip the car if it was not available with a CF roof? I would think not right? I've got it on my E92. Let me in on a secret. It's mostly for looks
- Spoiler is a must, I agree. I can install one in 30 mins.
- Considering how underrated BMW turbo engines are, it'll most likely be right at what you want.
- Curb weight seems doable if you ask me

My 2 cents

[phoenixbmwlife]

Originally Posted by W///

If you can let a few things slide, then the M2 really isn't far from what you are asking for.
- Are you willing to spend $8000 on CCB? Let's say the car starts at $55k (which I doubt it will), that's 14% of the total price of the car on brakes. That's asinine IMHO
- Would you really skip the car if it was not available with a CF roof? I would think not right? I've got it on my E92. Let me in on a secret. It's mostly for looks
- Spoiler is a must, I agree. I can install one in 30 mins.
- Considering how underrated BMW turbo engines are, it'll most likely be right at what you want.
- Curb weight seems doable if you ask me

My 2 cents

My comment was tongue in cheek. I'm sure the M2 will be a great car but I've already decided a long time ago on the M4. It's bigger than I wanted but I'll be happy with it. Still have time on my current lease.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by PhoenixWolf

My comment was tongue in cheek. I'm sure the M2 will be a great car but I've already decided a long time ago on the M4. It's bigger than I wanted but I'll be happy with it. Still have time on my current lease.

it's really tough to financially justify going from a recent M235 purchase to M2... or from owning a 135 to 1M.. or from a purchased 335 to M3/M4 ... etc.. Sometimes being an early adopter is fun... ! sometimes it leads to regret....

[W///]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

it's really tough to financially justify going from a recent M235 purchase to M2... or from owning a 135 to 1M.. or from a purchased 335 to M3/M4 ... etc.. Sometimes being an early adopter is fun... ! sometimes it leads to regret....

Hell, I'd even argue going from a 1M to an M2.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by W///

Hell, I'd even argue going from a 1M to an M2.

No doubt! half the time I think I should be trying to secure as many M2 allocations as I can.... the other half the time I am waiting patiently as I am dreaming of an M2 CSL or an M2 gran coupe.. it's a matter of waiting out BMW.. And we've seen so many many times that it's worth doing..

E36 - E36 M3 CSL
E46 - E46 M3 CSL

Z3
Z4 - " we have no plans to make an M model" - bam... Z4 M

1 series-- " We have no plans to make an M model... " ha!
I was in line at my dealer waiting for an 1M for over 2 years when the 1 series came out... tons of my E30 M3 buds wanted one..
then.. for years BMW said no.. but when they did say yes.. I was there and I was ready.. I hadn't gone for the 135..

M2 ...? I'm keeping my eggs in the M2 CSL basket for a little longer.. I need to upgrade my daily driver SUV and distract myself for awhile..

[RobShaw]

Originally Posted by DM1

I will have it, I need to have it, I must have it. Wow.

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[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

ALL CARS SHOULD have this... it's like saying.. All cars should have two side mirrors.. its simply NOT refutable.

Back in the 80s, the passenger side of the early Ferrari Testarossa models featured no side mirror because ...exotic.

"The early Testarossas were fitted with the famous single high mirror, also known as the "flying mirror". The strange location of this mirror was related to a European law regarding the external rear view mirror, which was interpreted by the designer as the need of having 100% rearward visibility. As this simply was an incorrect interpretation of the law, Ferrari later decided (also after many complaints about the single high mirror) to use double low mirrors, first shown on the Geneva show in 1986. The first cars having double low mirrors were s/n 67079 for Euro versions and s/n 67487 for US versions (first US car with Model Year 1987)."
(http://www.red-headed.com/testarossa_versions.html)

But that was then, of course.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

I think Scott is suggesting that the render include a German vehicle registration plate on the front of the car.

Yes it needs a registration.

[fuddman]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Yes it needs a registration.

OK. Glad that's straightened out.
Now, what's Step 2 ?

[W///]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

No doubt! half the time I think I should be trying to secure as many M2 allocations as I can.... the other half the time I am waiting patiently as I am dreaming of an M2 CSL or an M2 gran coupe.. it's a matter of waiting out BMW.. And we've seen so many many times that it's worth doing..

E36 - E36 M3 CSL
E46 - E46 M3 CSL

Z3
Z4 - " we have no plans to make an M model" - bam... Z4 M

1 series-- " We have no plans to make an M model... " ha!
I was in line at my dealer waiting for an 1M for over 2 years when the 1 series came out... tons of my E30 M3 buds wanted one..
then.. for years BMW said no.. but when they did say yes.. I was there and I was ready.. I hadn't gone for the 135..

M2 ...? I'm keeping my eggs in the M2 CSL basket for a little longer.. I need to upgrade my daily driver SUV and distract myself for awhile..

Here's my take. I'm also not in a rush to get one unless they are impossible to find (which I doubt). I've got plenty of toys to play with, and as you probably know, this will probably the first and last car I buy brand new. So I absolutely want to get it right, with no regrets on anything.

Advantage to waiting until summer 2017:
- M2 LCI: Hopefully get LED's, the first year bugs should be worked out, maybe get new iDrive. Not to mention there'll be plenty of reviews out by then. We'll also obviously know the price by then.
- M3 ZCP: Maybe they'll have LBB as a standard color. It'll definitely be between this and the M2.
- M2 GC: By then we'll know if this car is going to be for this generation or next. If not this gen, I'm not planning on waiting that long.
- M2 CSL: I'll look, but probably won't care to be honest. Too expensive most likely due to exclusivity. Also probably won't be available with a 6MT.

I'm a patient guy, but counting how long we've waited already + potentially another 24 months might be the end of me

[Variance]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Sorry.. but I Agree with the person you mocked.. and he didn't say he NEEDED lane departure.. he said it's a good feature that all cars should have.
And I agree.. ALL CARS SHOULD have this... it's like saying.. All cars should have two side mirrors.. its simply NOT refutable.

Whether or not you ever need the lane departure system to save you is another thing.. and probably also depends on how well you have your mirrors set. The simple fact is that most drivers don't have their mirrors even set up properly... they are usually set so the driver can see cars in the lane but alongside and behind as opposed to the side.. most drivers set the side mirrors so they can see half their own car in them..

I believe that you are confusing blind spot monitoring with lane departure warning. Lane departure warning systems are the ones that vibrate the steering wheel or seat when the car senses you drifting out of your lane; some systems will also automatically correct the path of the car by taking control of the power steering system.

[SW19]

How can anyone think that there could be an M2 gran coupe with this generation of the 2 series,when there hasn't even been any pics of a 2 series gran coupe test car.The M2 gran coupe just isn't going to happen for the F87,maybe with the next generation of the 2 series.

There also won't be an M2 CSL IMO because they are following the same formula for the M2 that they did for the 1M.BMW is keeping the options and specs below the M4,so that it doesn't outperform the M4.So why would they then make a limited production M2 CSL which would probably beat an M4 around a track?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

How can anyone think that there could be an M2 gran coupe with this generation of the 2 series,when there hasn't even been any pics of a 2 series gran coupe test car.The M2 gran coupe just isn't going to happen for the F87,maybe with the next generation of the 2 series.

There also won't be an M2 CSL IMO because they are following the same formula for the M2 that they did for the 1M.BMW is keeping the options and specs below the M4,so that it doesn't outperform the M4.So why would they then make a limited production M2 CSL which would probably beat an M4 around a track?

Because there are rumors of an entire CSL lineups of coupes that would compete with the GT series from Porsche.

This means M2,M4 ,M6 CSL

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Nantucket

There also won't be an M2 CSL IMO because they are following the same formula for the M2 that they did for the 1M. BMW is keeping the options and specs below the M4, so that it doesn't outperform the M4. So why would they then make a limited production M2 CSL which would probably beat an M4 around a track?

The CSL range will be no cheap thrill. It will be hardcore, also price-wise: more dollars for more performance and less weight.