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Owning an M2, I am genuinely convinced it is a better car. However, I would not sell a 1M to buy one. In fact, I would not sell a 1M period.
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10-25-2016, 04:36 AM | #24 |
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I ordered my M2 a year ago and let go of my 1M. I explained why (see this thread).
As you can guess, in the end it all comes down to a personal choice. You know best what your priorities are in the current stage of your life. Both cars have their own character: 'The Wild One' (1M) versus 'The Mild One' (M2). As I wrote in a comment: if the 1M is rock 'n roll, then the M2 is jazz. Both got soul, but in a different way. Kinky (1M) & Cool (M2): I love both (see some general impressions here and here). The M2 with M Performance Exhaust kills the 1M in the sound department (listen here). As a daily driver, the M2 will very likely suit your needs better - it's less nervous than the 1M, more indulgent. And if you gotta convince your significant other: the M2 is safer (more compliant/planted) than the nervous 'ants in the pants' 1M. At night the 'High Beam Assist' of the M2 swivelling around the road and 'wrapping' cars with its wall of light is a pretty cool feature too (advanced compared to the HBA of the 1M: see here). Furthermore I'm also pleased with my sunroof (eat your heart out, USA market ). Hard to fault the M2. Though the analog dials of the instrument cluster can sometimes be pretty dark in overcast conditions. BMW M screwed up on that feature (see here). For the rest: 1M keeps good value as collector's item with demand still going strong. The M2 will fare well on the resale market too in the future, but not as extraordinary as the 1M. Your low mileage 1M is worth its salt ...and even more. Many enthusiasts want to get their hands/claws on one. I deliberately went for 6MT (to keep a bit of the 1M look 'n feel). I also wanted Mineral Grey as it's more understated, bit more like a business monster. The Valencia Orange color of my 1M - which I loved - unfortunately caught a bit too much attention wherever you move through traffic. For the rest: I ticked all options and also threw in some M Performance parts. As I wrote: speaking for myself, happy camper in Camp M2 - got no regrets. MY 2018 = a mild cosmetic face-lift for the 2-Series, including the M2 (especially lights). But hey... all you want is *now*. Cheers, -A- My current and former car teamed up:
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Problem is I like the 1M so much I can't seem to convince myself, I'm right on the line and you've highlighted many of the reasons why. Having both only works out if the wife wants it and she's not sounding too enthusiastic at the moment... |
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Why stress about a car...if you enjoy it, keep it, drive it and it's nice that it feels special and unique to you... It sounds like your car is not insured if something happens or is the 1M a financial burden? Strange that you say; you could never buy another M car without iDrive, screens, etc. It's true they are not going to build another car like that! But this is also the top reason you want to sell your 1M. When you sell it, you will also lost it and don't have it anymore. I just don't get it...but if you love your 1M...keep it and enjoy it. You can always buy a M2 any other day in your life.
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I thought BMW was ending production at the end of 2018 to start the production of the CS version? Or they are just gonna slow down base model production to leave room for CS production? Or just completely stop base model and produce CS version for a x ammount of time and then back to base model? |
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Based on your comments, I think you will have lingering regret if you let go of your 1M... unless you can figure out a way to have both. Since you can afford to wait (M2 is not going anywhere), why not wait? |
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Out of curiosity, for all you 1M purist. During the time of purchase, what made you stop going even more purist to say an Elise? Is it because of livability? Rear seats? Brand? It sounds like for some of you, you enjoy not having any Technology intervention in the car. Just wondering where do you draw the line.
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10-25-2016, 12:15 PM | #38 |
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The now "base" M2 won't hold the value of that 1M. The 1M is a rare car. Hold it and let it appreciate some more. Hi Po M2's are coming so no reason to dump that 1m for a "base" M2.
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I had the same situation recently but with a different twist.
I wanted to purchase either a 1m or a m2. I now have driven both and both are A plus cars in my opinion. I tracked Down the last remaing 1m "like "new car ... That's right one dealer still has one left .. It is white and has only 998 miles on it... I went to look at it ... It is located on the second floor of century city BMW in studio city California.. On the second floor of the dealership... It is pristine flawless mint cond with a price tag at 72,500.00 You cannot really compare the two unless you start from scratch mileage wise. And even with 5 k preimum you come out on top for the M2 because of the warranty.. If you can still get a 2016 you gonna get 2500 more warranty and that is the key.. You have the ability to drive repair and maintence free.. And if you drive a car hard like me you are gonna use the warranties. In my opinion the M2 drives better overall.. .It is not fair to compare but the 5 years makes an amazing difference ..especially with yearly improvements. It was a close call.. The last one... Out there not even broken in (1250miles)... Waiting for just the right person. But this personnel preference like a great blonde over a super hot redhead both a drop dead A plus car. As far as keeping value my advice is drive the car while you still can and enjoy it ...forgetabout exit resale... For me the LLB color and in my opinion one of the greatest BMW colors ever,and over all handing made the choice easy but I bow my head in respect to a great 1M ride... Last edited by Encinitas CA M2+M5 Owner; 10-25-2016 at 01:08 PM.. |
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Don't. Personally I think the M2 looks better and is a fine car but it will never ever be as special and collectible as a 1M. The resale value of the 1M today tells the story. If you trade in the 1M you will kick yourself down the road. It will be sort of like the guy that traded in his e30M3 back in the early 90's for a shiny new e36M3.... and for the rest of his life regrets it. My .02
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Also tell you how the latest Tesla econobox is faster than you M2. So which car would you want to have when 5 years old? Seriously I am not saying one or the other just saying when it is no longer shiny and faster than most which will be more special to you? |
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The guy with the Ferrari 308 that asked me what my favorite Ferrari when I was a young boy and proceeded to scold me because the Dino 246 that I loved was not a Ferrari. Never mind that the Dino is selling now for 10 times the money over his "real" Ferrari. No, I'm not a purist. BMW M cars were never about purity. They were race(y) cars you drive on the street. Their focus was tilted toward handling and performance. They were cars that could keep up with a Ferrari but still have a back seat for your kids. The cockpits and pedals were always driver focused. Later they added gadgets and the focus is Naturally diluted by screens, distractions. However, you could always order one without this stuff. To me it takes away from the Cockpit and blurs the focus. The F80 cars added fake sound and dropped the temp gauge . They added comfort mode buttons and mandatory idrive and screens that complicate simple operations that distract from piloting. I am not a purist but a threshold has been crossed with M2 because there is no longer choice to not get fake sound, heavy seats motorized mirrors, small cute instruments that are harder to see and a glowing logo where temp gauge should go. Those are no longer performance choices. So I am not a purist but the combination of all of these little things add up to make me appreciate the 1M cockpit that is the more pure cockpit in no nav trim. As I said, if the M2 were available without this stuff I wouldn't have canceled my first spot for one and not gone through the great lengths of buying a car 3000 miles away from my home in another country, importing it and driving across the entire USA. Yes, I sold my first one and regretted it and it made me appreciate the 1M because I had already sold it and could buy the m2. As I said already so people don't get offended. The M2 is a better car, it's just that the 1M still has something special that a few really appreciate. I think the e46 competition m3 was a better car than e30 m3 but the e30 also is special even though the other ones are faster and have trendier cockpits. I hope this helps explain it. Last edited by nachob; 10-25-2016 at 09:20 PM.. |
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