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      02-20-2016, 03:14 PM   #67
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At 6'3" I appreciate the extra head room so no to the moonroof. Sucks for those that really want it in the US. If a CSL version comes to fruition, I'll have to move back to Germany...not for a sunroof though.
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If BMW added the option to select a Moonroof in North America will you buy, verses not buy due to no choice at all ?
I realize it isn't the purist thing to say, but I really love having a moonroof and will miss it if I cannot option one on an M2. Not a deal breaker, but if it is offered by the time I am able to order, I will go for it.
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I passed on the M2 because of NO moonroof option in North America.

IF BMW adds the option for MY 17, or makes a M2 Convertible, I may still buy one.

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      02-21-2016, 06:57 AM   #71
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After 4 years with a vert no air is a buzzkill.
Indeed, after 3 yrs with the Z4 it was a must for me to order the M2 with the moonroof...
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After 4 years with a vert no air is a buzzkill.
Indeed, after 3 yrs with the Z4 it was a must for me to order the M2 with the moonroof...
Absolutely.

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I passed on the M2 because of NO moonroof option in North America.
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Right.

IF BMW adds the option for MY 17, or makes a M2 Convertible, I may still buy one.

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I really want to know more about that BMW product strategy. For example, no moonroof in the states, you can order it in Germany. In Germany you do not get the garage opener remote in the rear mirror. Something which is an option in the states (and I have it currently in the Z). In Germany you can order chrome trim, no option for the states...

There are fur sure good reasons behind that, but it is strange if you do not know them...I assume they know exactly from other product lines how many would order the garage opener and simply decide that it is not worth the effort to offer it on a certain market. But I do not see the saving potential here...

Just thinking loud...
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I really want to know more about that BMW product strategy. For example, no moonroof in the states, you can order it in Germany. In Germany you do not get the garage opener remote in the rear mirror. Something which is an option in the states (and I have it currently in the Z). In Germany you can order chrome trim, no option for the states...

There are fur sure good reasons behind that, but it is strange if you do not know them...I assume they know exactly from other product lines how many would order the garage opener and simply decide that it is not worth the effort to offer it on a certain market. But I do not see the saving potential here...

Just thinking loud...
Yeah. So cost to add an option to the car exceeds the revenue from the option given volume of the car?

If that's the case, that's awfully stingy given its supposed to be a luxury brand?

But yes. No moonroof and all black interior leather are deal breakers for me. For more money than a M235 they want to give me less options. Pay more and compromise just doesn't make sense.

Purist should buy Lotuses. For a daily driver I want all the creature comfort I can get
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If you won't get this car because it doesn't have a moonroof, then your spot will go to someone who deserves to own it. Simple.


I understand needing creature comforts, but this car was not built to please the majority of BMW owners, hence why only a percentage are bitching about not having it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
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If you won't get this car because it doesn't have a moonroof, then your spot will go to someone who deserves to own it. Simple.


I understand needing creature comforts, but this car was not built to please the majority of BMW owners, hence why only a percentage are bitching about not having it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
Perfect.

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Yeah. So cost to add an option to the car exceeds the revenue from the option given volume of the car?

If that's the case, that's awfully stingy given its supposed to be a luxury brand?

But yes. No moonroof and all black interior leather are deal breakers for me. For more money than a M235 they want to give me less options. Pay more and compromise just doesn't make sense.

Purist should buy Lotuses. For a daily driver I want all the creature comfort I can get
Get an M4 if you want full on creature comfort. The M2 was not created for full luxury + performance which is partially why you don't get to spec it out like an m4. The other reason is so they don't cannablize M4 sales.
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Get an M4 if you want full on creature comfort. The M2 was not created for full luxury + performance which is partially why you don't get to spec it out like an m4. The other reason is so they don't cannablize M4 sales.
I wouldn't even bother explaining it anymore. I feel like people know this, but would rather go on tangents concerning the "shortcomings".


This is exactly why BMW has plunged from being a driver's car to a car for the average driver. Priorities range far too much toward catering for the latter.
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I'm 5'10 and my helmet rides less than an inch from the ceiling during track days in my e46 M3! I honesty look forward to having the additional head room, the only time I may miss the sunroof is on the first warm days of the season here in Wisconsin. The rest of the year I seldom opened the sunroof anyway!

If I'm really missing a sunroof... I'll take my X3 out and open the panoramic!
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I like the sunroof but honestly use it mostly for the pop-up and rarely open all the way. I do wish that they had included pop out rear windows on the M2 like they did on the old e46 coupes. If they had this then I'd have little use for and wouldn't miss the sunroof.
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If it was an option I would get it. Because its not an option I don't even really think about it. It is nice to have even if you open it once in a while and don't really track your car at all or to often. I used to love opening the sunroof, keeping the windows up, while I was having a cigarette. Now that I don't smoke its no biggie.
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If you won't get this car because it doesn't have a moonroof, then your spot will go to someone who deserves to own it. Simple.


I understand needing creature comforts, but this car was not built to please the majority of BMW owners, hence why only a percentage are bitching about not having it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
Exactly. Stop whining about a no sunroof option and no sound deadening. This car is not for you. Next!
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Going from Z4 to the M2 the sunroof was a no brainier for me.
Since I am from Sweden this was an option available.
With that said; we enjoy every bit of sunshine possible :-)
Also with the open sunroof I can here my exhaust sound loud and clear.
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If you won't get this car because it doesn't have a moonroof, then your spot will go to someone who deserves to own it. Simple.


I understand needing creature comforts, but this car was not built to please the majority of BMW owners, hence why only a percentage are bitching about not having it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
Exactly. Stop whining about a no sunroof option and no sound deadening. This car is not for you. Next!

Increase your post count elsewhere.

This is how you get what you want.

Don't want it it, do not post.

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If you won't get this car because it doesn't have a moonroof, then your spot will go to someone who deserves to own it. Simple.


I understand needing creature comforts, but this car was not built to please the majority of BMW owners, hence why only a percentage are bitching about not having it. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
Exactly. Stop whining about a no sunroof option and no sound deadening. This car is not for you. Next!
Just happen to want a M2 Convertible.

Lots of threads to post in.... NEXT !
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Right.

IF BMW adds the option for MY 17, or makes a M2 Convertible, I may still buy one.
I've mentioned this before but you can have one added after the fact. If that's the only thing stopping you why not try it? We've done it before and it turned out awesome.
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