[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by Spook410

- There were major changes from the C400 to the C450. Suspension, transmission, engine.

- See raves about the Porsche Macan but the reviews all cite vague steering and poor braking? Thought it was just a tuned Audi Q5? Handy format and the S model isn't too insane on cost. Maybe I should actually drive one.

Yeah do yourself a favor, go have some fun and drive one. It's not the best at any one thing obvs. If you want a sports car get a Cayman. If you want a hard core SUV it's not that either. No third row so you can't haul 6 kids around. What it is, in my estimation at least, is a close to ideal compromise that's not the best but very very good at most things any sane person would do with a vehicle.

[yhehdgjs]

I think the Benz for luxuriousness and BMW for sportiness.

I would go for Benz if you want an overall good car. Even though I own BMW, I have to admit that Benz's interior and exterior is awesome, but I don't like their transmission( it really is the worst, I've driven c class and s class but... it was like I was driving on eco mode. It has the power but it gives me a feeling that it's going too slow. It doesn't mean that it's slow) It's a good car for comfort driving.

If you want super sportiness for daily driving car, I would go for BMW. I personally think BMW's interior looks cheaper than Benz but when it comes to sportiness, it's the best.

If your not going to put your car on the circuit, I think you should go for the car that you put prior to.

[M5AMG]

Thinking of an M2 to replace both my current daily drive, an A45 AMG, and my long term much loved E39 M5.

Not familiar with the 2 series, going to look at the M2 base car, an M235i this week.

A45 is AWD with hatchback versatility. Power, torque & weight not that different to the M2. 4 cylinder a bit buzzy and not melodious at mid revs, nice noise at low revs and full throttle upshifts.

Old M5 starting to need some refreshing but still a cracking drive.

[gtr]

Originally Posted by EmPower

Few issues against the Macan -

1.) I already have a 2014 X5; so may not want another SUV
2.) Macan GTS is almost 20K more than the C450 AMG
3.) I am still looking to drive the 340i; that may be the nail in the coffin for the C450... although for visual drama; the C cannot be beat

I'd take the C450 over the 3 series. The new c class is just much nicer than the regular 3 series.

While you are shopping just test drive them all. When I drove the Macan turbo I was impressed.

If you have only one car the Macan would be the best pic. Sport, utility, luxury, and all season. Since you have another larger car get the M2. If it's too cramped for daily use I'm guessing the resale will be decent to switch to something bigger if your situation requires.

[moldcad]

I admit that - when in the market for TWO cars (such was my need at the time), I never contemplated between the M235i and A45 AMG; I did have some difficult time deciding between the Merc and the Golf 7R - but as my sig says, the Merc lost on both fronts...

[M5AMG]

Had a sit in the M235i today, too small for my needs, back to the drawing board.
Will check out the C450 AMG eventually, rear biased AWD sounds ok and again same sort of hp, torque & weight too?

Best bet may be a used M3 though, prices will drop quite a bit by mid 2016.

[BEM-S4]

Drove the 450 sedan today. Gotta admit, impressive car. It's on my short list for the M235's replacement for sure. $57k the way I'd want it, which is basically the same as the M2 w the tranny and exec pack. Really struggled this past week getting around w the RWD even in snows, damn hilly at the new house.

[TunedM2C]

I have the lesser powerful C300 AMG Sport and it's a really nice car. Having said that, can't wait to replace it with the M2.

[pruettfan]

Your on a website called Bimmerpost so you probably already know what the answer will be from most.

[Jady Pham]

I think you're asking this on the wrong forum haha!

[G8rGrl]

Mercedes changed the "C450" model name. It is now the 2017 Mercedes-AMG C43.

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by G8rGrl

Mercedes changed the "C450" model name. It is now the 2017 Mercedes-AMG C43.

Really? Honestly I think that's BS. It's not the 63 after all. At least with the M235 (not looking to start that argument again) it's different bc the real M cars just have one number. So it's AMG C43 for the fake one and C63 AMG for the real one? So just depends where the AMG falls?

[Benzima]

Get the C450AMG so there is more allocations for BMW M2 fans

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

2 distinct cars with 2 different missions. Only thing they have in common is they're both German makes.

[hans007]

I will admit I'd consider the c450 coupe if it comes to market with the 9g tronic. I may even be tempted if these dealer shenanigans continue with the m2 into the fall when the c450 should be available.

It's not going to be as fast or fun, but its one classy looking GT type car and the interior is amazing.

[Spook410]

There are so many great cars right now. One can pick from pure sports to luxo-sport to practical fun. M2 still leading the pack for me but if the dealer wants to play games, I'll take my cash elsewhere and not look back.

[Pol]

4 cyl..., not my cup of tea.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by Pol

4 cyl..., not my cup of tea.

It's not a four-cylinder.

[G8rGrl]

Originally Posted by BEM-S4

Really? Honestly I think that's BS. It's not the 63 after all. At least with the M235 (not looking to start that argument again) it's different bc the real M cars just have one number. So it's AMG C43 for the fake one and C63 AMG for the real one? So just depends where the AMG falls?

The C63 is named the same way: Mercedes-AMG C63: http://blog.caranddriver.com/amg-spo...mercedes-amgs/

[BEM-S4]

Originally Posted by G8rGrl

The C63 is named the same way: Mercedes-AMG C63: http://blog.caranddriver.com/amg-spo...mercedes-amgs/

Thanks for the info. I don't like it but maybe I'm just old fashioned. Not that it really matters, we all know what we're actually buying anyway. Same reason I never got my panties in a knot over the whole M235 naming bullshit arguments.

Actually drove the 63 as well, honestly as a daily I think it's wasted money for me at least. 450 or 43 or whatever they call it if/when I go that route would be more enjoyable.

[SaMaster14]

If you are gonna jump on a c450, wait until they rebadge it as the C43 AMG...

Still, M2 will outperform the pseudo-AMG car in just about every aspect, minus - most likely - comfort and interior appointments/materials.

The Benz is a great daily, and might be the car for some. The M2 is, well, an M car! Apples to oranges comparison imo. Two cars for two totally different purposes.

[Pol]

Originally Posted by mofomat

It's not a four-cylinder.

Sorry, was confused, C450AMG = 6V.