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      07-29-2021, 04:18 PM   #1
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Brakes/fluid/pads for track days in CS

I planning on a few track weekends per year with my CS.
I am coming from 20+k track miles in a couple different 987.2 Caymans where I used girodisc rotors, rbf 600, and pagid yellow 29s for my brake setup….never had any issues and did all of my own work.
What setups (rotors, fluid, pads) are people using on the track for the CS?
I have cheap red brakes.
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Depends on how hard you're pushing it. I boiled my Motul RBF660 last event. Nothing but SRF for me from here on out. Some folks can use ATE with no problem.

Pad wise... I love the PFC-11s in the M2. Haven't tried pagid, though.
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Stock fluid held up at last event, but I'm switching to 660 for future events with Pagid 29s. I use pfc 08 on my E36, but not available in pad sizes for the CS from what I could find.
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RBF600 and Pagid RSL29. They work phenomenally for track-only use. OEM rotors are fine but if you want better rotors get the Girodisc rotors.
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I have the ceramics and use RBF600 and braided brake lines.
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I used fluid and lines for to days at limerock with steel stock brakes no issues but just added pads will try them next week .
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I planning on a few track weekends per year with my CS.
I am coming from 20+k track miles in a couple different 987.2 Caymans where I used girodisc rotors, rbf 600, and pagid yellow 29s for my brake setup….never had any issues and did all of my own work.
What setups (rotors, fluid, pads) are people using on the track for the CS?
I have cheap red brakes.
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We have a range of popular offerings for the M2 CS depending on how serious you want to get, from pads, lines, and fluid, all the way up to our AP Racing Radi-CAL Competition Brake Kits: https://www.essexparts.com/my-vehicl...CS/Iron%20disc

I posted yesterday with more details on our brake kits...we shave as much as 40 lbs. unsprung from the OEM iron brake package: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...7&postcount=54
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Stock rotor, Castrol SRF, and Ferodo ds1.11.

Pads we have limited option for 2NH. Ferodo and Gloc have some good pads that I have personal experience with. Pagid I've heard is not as good.
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Stock rotor, Castrol SRF, and Ferodo ds1.11.

Pads we have limited option for 2NH. Ferodo and Gloc have some good pads that I have personal experience with. Pagid I've heard is not as good.
Not as good on the Pagid in what way? I interviewed a number of M2C 2NH owners and the Pagid seemed to be a solid bet, so I went that way. The Ferodo options seemed all over the map when I talked to people.
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Stock rotor, Castrol SRF, and Ferodo ds1.11.

Pads we have limited option for 2NH. Ferodo and Gloc have some good pads that I have personal experience with. Pagid I've heard is not as good.
Not as good on the Pagid in what way? I interviewed a number of M2C 2NH owners and the Pagid seemed to be a solid bet, so I went that way. The Ferodo options seemed all over the map when I talked to people.
Interesting. I've literally not heard a single person have anything bad to say about ferodo pads that actually used them.

I don't have 2NH brakes, but I've been using ferodo pads for many seasons now. Absolutely love them.
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Stock rotor, Castrol SRF, and Ferodo ds1.11.

Pads we have limited option for 2NH. Ferodo and Gloc have some good pads that I have personal experience with. Pagid I've heard is not as good.
Not as good on the Pagid in what way? I interviewed a number of M2C 2NH owners and the Pagid seemed to be a solid bet, so I went that way. The Ferodo options seemed all over the map when I talked to people.
Interesting. I've literally not heard a single person have anything bad to say about ferodo pads that actually used them.

I don't have 2NH brakes, but I've been using ferodo pads for many seasons now. Absolutely love them.
I looked back at my notes and was confusing the comments from someone with carbotech with the ferrodo notes. Nothing negative it appears on the ferrodo. The carbotech comments were that it took a mix to get the bias right and they were running different front and rear compounds and that they felt they were a little too aggressive for street driving. That was it. What did you hear on the pagid front?
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Stock rotor, Castrol SRF, and Ferodo ds1.11.

Pads we have limited option for 2NH. Ferodo and Gloc have some good pads that I have personal experience with. Pagid I've heard is not as good.
Not as good on the Pagid in what way? I interviewed a number of M2C 2NH owners and the Pagid seemed to be a solid bet, so I went that way. The Ferodo options seemed all over the map when I talked to people.
Interesting. I've literally not heard a single person have anything bad to say about ferodo pads that actually used them.

I don't have 2NH brakes, but I've been using ferodo pads for many seasons now. Absolutely love them.
I looked back at my notes and was confusing the comments from someone with carbotech with the ferrodo notes. Nothing negative it appears on the ferrodo. The carbotech comments were that it took a mix to get the bias right and they were running different front and rear compounds and that they felt they were a little too aggressive for street driving. That was it. What did you hear on the pagid front?
Pagids are solid, a lot of guys run them.

On my LCI M2, I've actually found that running the ferodo DS1.11 on the front, and DS2500 on the rear worked out well.

The bonus with ferodo is, you can run the 2500s on the street. They have minimal noise, and the compounds are close to the 1.11's, so no rebedding is required when swapping out track pads for street.
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Just installed Portafeild r4s used to run pagids on 2018 will post results after limerock August 20th . Also installed lines and high temp fluid
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Just installed Portafeild r4s used to run pagids on 2018 will post results after limerock August 20th . Also installed lines and high temp fluid
This is on the CS? Was talking to a friend that tracks a fair bit and he felt the Pagids were over aggressive with any street driving and hard on rotors. So I'm going to be curious to see if I have similar experience or not since he was a Porsche guy.
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Just installed Portafeild r4s used to run pagids on 2018 will post results after limerock August 20th . Also installed lines and high temp fluid
This is on the CS? Was talking to a friend that tracks a fair bit and he felt the Pagids were over aggressive with any street driving and hard on rotors. So I'm going to be curious to see if I have similar experience or not since he was a Porsche guy.
I've used Pagid RSL29 on a number of cars (M2, GT4, etc.). They are phenomenal - great brake modulation, decent life, and even wear. The only thing I'd note is that you shouldn't use them on the street for a DD. They are incredibly loud and squeaky. I used them as a street and track pad on my GT4 and it was fine as long as I hit the track once a month. Otherwise, you could hear me braking from 2-3 blocks away lol.
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