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      10-16-2019, 06:55 AM   #111
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Hate to say it, but never mind the Mercedes, I'd take the Hyundai i30N Fastback over this! Which is a shame because I'd been hoping the 2GC would be the answer to my new car desires. I guess the i30N isn't an option in the US though.



Hmmmm Hyundai did poach the head of the BMW M Division to head up their N Performance development...
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      10-16-2019, 07:23 AM   #112
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the rear design goes against the 'sporty' look they are claiming to achieve. front and side views are not bad but the back styling spoils it IMO.

on a general note, all this baby m's and baby AMGs are just spoiling the total outlook of their offerings. clearly a great sales strategy to target all customer segments but that distinguishing factor and sense of pride when you own a real M or AMG is just not there anymore. Feel bad for those real M and AMG owners.
When I read people express this sentiment, it sounds like the real people "buying the badge" are those M/AMG owners you describe feeling butt hurt. 💡
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      10-16-2019, 07:31 AM   #113
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Maybe the Chinese like it.
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      10-16-2019, 07:57 AM   #114
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You almost want to naturally hate this car. I'm trying my best to really like it but there's absolutely nothing about it that would make a grown ass man want to buy it. This is perfect for kids in high school or a graduation gift for a daughter for going to college.
I think that might be the intended market though. It's in the "cute" car segment. It's even fwd.
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      10-16-2019, 08:37 AM   #115
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Something isn't right, but I can't put my finger on it
Wrong wheel drive and badge.
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      10-16-2019, 08:40 AM   #116
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Why oh why does BMW insist on creating 4 door and X version of everything. Once the bean counters took over the brand image has deteriorated.

I'm glad I picked up an M2 when I did.
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      10-16-2019, 08:41 AM   #117
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When I read people express this sentiment, it sounds like the real people "buying the badge" are those M/AMG owners you describe feeling butt hurt. 💡
Why would they be butthurt by a rebadged Mini?

I’m here laughing my arse off in my armchair looking at idiots who pay 10 grand more for the badge when they can get one from BMW for 40 bucks.
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      10-16-2019, 08:46 AM   #118
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Wow... the interior of this new model is great IMO, but the rest is everything that's wrong with modern BMWs IMO.

No Hoffmeister kink
No real kidneys
FWD
Front looking like it's already been crashed
No 50/50 weight

Damn... Sad indeed. The forthcoming 4 is not even something I would go for because of the nose design - the new 3 or current 5 might be the last decent looking for a while
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      10-16-2019, 08:54 AM   #119
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I don't like this car at all. The 2 went from being such a good looking little car to looking so......American.
You mean big, fat, bloaty, and cheese burger? yes I agree.
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Sigh... BMWs designs as of late have me embarrassed to admit that I'm a BMW fan. This looks like you took the worst parts of all the budget sub-compact cars out on the market today and slapped a roundel on it.

I genuinely think the 2019 Corolla looks better than this. Even if you think the Corolla is ugly, it's at least striking to look at. This 2GC is ugly AND bland.

[IMG]https://www.priorityauto.com/invento...jpg?height=400[/IMG]
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When I read people express this sentiment, it sounds like the real people "buying the badge" are those M/AMG owners you describe feeling butt hurt. 💡
Why would they be butthurt by a rebadged Mini?
That is my point. M/AMG buyers choosing their vehicle for its performance shouldn't feel at all threatened. Conversely, I can see those whom purchased their M/AMG because of the badge on the trunk feeling butt hurt because now there's one on a fwd vehicle.
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Current 2 series owners make fun of the new body, when in reality it looks much better, than the older one
These photos kind of illustrate the overreaction by many in this thread as the 2 series has never been a handsome car. The visual differences between the cars are very minimal and comes down to if you prefer the old front end treatment or the new one. It's an entry level car to compete with Audi and MB FWD based competition and I have no idea why any owner of higher level BMW cars would care about this car or feel that it tarnishes anything.
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      10-16-2019, 09:22 AM   #123
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What is this? A Volvo? Skoda or a Toyota?
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      10-16-2019, 09:23 AM   #124
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Hate to say it, but never mind the Mercedes, I'd take the Hyundai i30N Fastback over this! Which is a shame because I'd been hoping the 2GC would be the answer to my new car desires. I guess the i30N isn't an option in the US though.



Hmmmm Hyundai did poach the head of the BMW M Division to head up their N Performance development...
I would do same if i30N is available in US.
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      10-16-2019, 09:26 AM   #125
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Wow. WONDERFUL HOOD LINE
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      10-16-2019, 09:31 AM   #126
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I think this would have been a good car for the I-division. An electric drivetrain with a 3 cyl would fit this perfectly and extend the market. There is no market for ICE sedans rn, people would rather get into x1,x2, or x3. This is going to fail in the US.
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      10-16-2019, 10:10 AM   #127
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A 2 door render from the interwebs
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      10-16-2019, 10:35 AM   #128
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A 2 door render
That's a reasonably well crafted piece of work. If the goal was simply to imagine what a 2 Series Coupe built on the FAAR platform could look like, this is a very competent effort.

That said, it is certainly worth remembering that the upcoming 2022 G42 2 Series Coupe will be built on a completely different platform from the new F44 2 Series Gran Coupe, and it will have its own completely distinct styling. What that means is, as far as that car is concerned, any rendering based the F44 accomplishes nothing as far as predicting what it will look like.

In fact, I would go as far as to say that, if one wanted to imagine the G42 (and I'm not saying you do, I'm merely covering the case in which someone may) that individual would be much better off starting with a blank slate. Some things to keep in mind would be classic RWD proportions, the very latest BMW styling cues from other RWD BMW products, and, if SCOTT is to be believed, a dash of the 3.0 CSL Hommage (or the 3.0 CSL Hommage R if you are going for something more along the lines of the M Performance model with M Performance parts or the G87 M2).
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      10-16-2019, 11:05 AM   #129
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At least the tail lights are more BMW-esque than the Lexus ones on the 3er.
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      10-16-2019, 11:20 AM   #130
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This is stupid. They should just perfect the 3. Let the 2 series remain a small coupe..nothing more.
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      10-16-2019, 11:21 AM   #131
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Asked my partner what he thought of it. He likes my 2, but says he'd prefer a 4 door. He liked the front but said the rear looked "squishy". Now that I look more I have to agree. Perhaps they should have made it a hatch, but would that have been too much like the Active Tourer?

It's a shame because I think there was a real desire for a smaller 4 door to take the place of the segment that the 3 used to occupy but has grown out of, both in terms of size and price. With so much attention these days on SUVs / SAVs and away from sedans, I guess it's no surprise they didn't seem to expend a lot of effort on this one.
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      10-16-2019, 11:26 AM   #132
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The next M2 is gonna look ridiculous. This new design is too floaty.
This design is based on fwd. New m will be rwd. That should impact the geometry. It'll look like a baby m4 (?!)
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