[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by jdarwin

Last month, I bought a 2018 M3 MGM 6MT Comp Package / Executive Package / Active Blind Spot for $67,788. List: $76,395.

Good point.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

They aren't marking up the car?!

The dealership I talked to (BMW SF) said they'll undoubtably mark up the car. They weren't even shy about admitting it.

No markups here in Raleigh. MSRP guaranteed, 3rd allocation spot.

[bimmer4life24]

Originally Posted by Tag

[AlpsRider]

The point is that inflation does matter when comparing prices.

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

The point is that inflation does matter when comparing prices.

Like backing up a few years...

May 1987 E30 M3: $34,000 MSRP (no including $475 freight) gives $74,756 in said BLS inflation calc used above.

[JacobBMW14]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

They aren't marking up the car?!

The dealership I talked to (BMW SF) said they'll undoubtably mark up the car. They weren't even shy about admitting it.

No markup. We’ve agreed in email exchanges that I’ll pay MSRP plus South Carolina booking/tax fee ($500) and destination fee ($1000). My incentives will be USAA military discount (currently $2,000) and he will throw in tint and nitrogen.

MSRP (~$58,900)
+$500 (Fees)
+$1000 (Destination fee)
- $2000 (military discount, USAA)
Free tint and nitrogen from the dealership

I live in South Carolina

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by cntzl

Just a friendly advice: Stay away from Bay Area dealers. There are 300+ BMW dealers in the country and several of them don't even have a waitlist yet. I live in Bay Area but I'm on the waitlist of couple dealers outside of California (with written confirmation of MSRP deal).

Originally Posted by CSBM5

No markups here in Raleigh. MSRP guaranteed, 3rd allocation spot.

Originally Posted by JacobBMW14

No markup. We’ve agreed in email exchanges that I’ll pay MSRP plus South Carolina booking/tax fee ($500) and destination fee ($1000). My incentives will be USAA military discount (currently $2,000) and he will throw in tint and nitrogen.

MSRP (~$58,900)
+$500 (Fees)
+$1000 (Destination fee)
- $2000 (military discount, USAA)
Free tint and nitrogen from the dealership

I live in South Carolina

God damn you San Francisco, you and your manual fearing hippie ass marking sh*t up.

[Cavpilot2k]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

The 1M was a steal at 46-53K.

The 2016 M2 was similarly a steal at 52.5K.


M2 Competition at 58k is now just a value proposition to the M4 at 66k.

Also bear in mind in 2 years(ish) when the M3/4 gets the S58, you'll almost certainly see another price jump. I'm willing to bet the first S58-powered M4's will start around $75k-$80k.

[AWF87M2]

I don't see how BMW can continue selling the normal M2 fitted with an outdated N55 alongside the M2 competition. If so it would be the only car that still uses this engine. Bmw should at least give the normal M2 a revised B58 engine as found in the 2019 X4 M40i but with a minor power bump.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by AWF87M2

I don't see how BMW can continue selling the normal M2 fitted with an outdated N55 alongside the M2 competition. If so it would be the only car that still uses this engine. Bmw should at least give the normal M2 a revised B58 engine as found in the 2019 X4 M40i but with a minor power bump.

They aren't, the normal M2 fitted with the N55 is either out of production or is nearing the end.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by cntzl

1M's price of $46-53K in 2011 corresponds to $51K-$59K in 2018 due to the inflation.

Also, M4 starts at $68,700 so there is still $10K difference between the M2C and M4 base prices

I don't really give a crap about " adjusting for inflation" but since that clearly floats your boat..
take a look at the price of the E46 M3 and compare it to the 1M and the M2

https://www.autoblog.com/buy/2002-BMW-M3/specs/

2002 M3 $45,900 - $53,900

2011 1M $46,000- $53,000

2016 M2 $51,700- $61,000

it doesn't take a rocket scientist (or any inflation adjustments) to recognize the bargain...

When I realized that the 1M was selling in 2011 at the same price as the E46 M3 .. I jumped on it..

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by AWF87M2

There is no official news yet of BMW discontinuing the normal M2. It is likely at this point for them to keep it in the lineup with a minor refresh as the X4 M40i got one too.

Are you sure? I saw somewhere that N55 M2 will no longer be produced. If you're right, then I see where you're coming from.

My question is, regardless of the fate of the N55 M2, what is BMW going to do with the already built M2 sitting in the dealership's lot?

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by AWF87M2

There is no official news yet of BMW discontinuing the normal M2. It is likely at this point for them to keep it in the lineup with a minor refresh as the X4 M40i got one too.

I think that it has been pretty well established by multiple sources that the "regular" M2 is going bye bye.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

True that. Only thing I will get is wheels and HK sound if they are not standard. Also it will hold its value better than M4 for sure.

Wheels have been standard in all the other countries pricing. If you want all black finish, it was another 250euros.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by AWF87M2

There is no official news yet of BMW discontinuing the normal M2. It is likely at this point for them to keep it in the lineup with a minor refresh as the X4 M40i got one too.

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Are you sure? I saw somewhere that N55 M2 will no longer be produced. If you're right, then I see where you're coming from.

My question is, regardless of the fate of the N55 M2, what is BMW going to do with the already built M2 sitting in the dealership's lot?

"Woodcliff Lake, NJ …Today, the BMW Group shows off its latest pride – the BMW M2 Competition. The 2019 BMW M2 Competition replaces the BMW M2 Coupe while retaining the compact dimensions, characteristic BMW M proportions and the BMW M TwinPower Turbo inline 6-cylinder engine, rear wheel drive and a standard manual transmission with an optional M DCT transmission that have made the M2 beloved by many enthusiasts. The exciting new addition to the BMW M portfolio provides a distinctive M design complemented by improved dynamics and track capabilities with a 0-60 sprint time of 4.0 seconds. The BMW M2 Competition will be available in summer of 2018. With pricing to be announced closer to Market launch."

Source: The First Ever 2019 BMW M2 Competition.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Are you sure? I saw somewhere that N55 M2 will no longer be produced. If you're right, then I see where you're coming from.

My question is, regardless of the fate of the N55 M2, what is BMW going to do with the already built M2 sitting in the dealership's lot?

sell them to people that don't want to pay 60K for an M2 comp... of course..

[Spa2k]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

The point is that inflation does matter when comparing prices.

But that doesn’t mean auto manufacturers base their pricing on it or the CPI. BMW’s increases on the M2 have always been a nice, round $1,000. If there were no M2 Comp, I would have expected the 2019 M2 (LCI) to have been priced at $55,500.

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

sell them to people that don't want to pay 60K for an M2 comp... of course..

And that’s happening. An increasing number of dealers are sold out on M2s - or if they’re larger dealers, only have a couple left. None I’ve talked to have expressed any anxiety about selling them.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Tag

"Woodcliff Lake, NJ …Today, the BMW Group shows off its latest pride – the BMW M2 Competition. The 2019 BMW M2 Competition replaces the BMW M2 Coupe while retaining the compact dimensions, characteristic BMW M proportions and the BMW M TwinPower Turbo inline 6-cylinder engine, rear wheel drive and a standard manual transmission with an optional M DCT transmission that have made the M2 beloved by many enthusiasts. The exciting new addition to the BMW M portfolio provides a distinctive M design complemented by improved dynamics and track capabilities with a 0-60 sprint time of 4.0 seconds. The BMW M2 Competition will be available in summer of 2018. With pricing to be announced closer to Market launch."

Source: The First Ever 2019 BMW M2 Competition.

common news for a month now, you are saying...... ?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

But that doesn’t mean auto manufacturers base their pricing on it or the CPI. BMW’s increases on the M2 have always been a nice, round $1,000. If there were no M2 Comp, I would have expected the 2019 M2 (LCI) to have been priced at $55,500.

I agree.. the " pricing for inflation is kinda silly" ..

and yes... M2 started at 51,700 in 2016, , then went to 52,500 for 2017 and then went to 54,500 for 2018.

Most BMWs inch up about $1200-1500 a year... so I wouldn't have been surprised to see a 2019 M2 go to $55,995 ish if it were made.
The M2 Competition pushing on up to 58 K plus still represents a good value compared to other items on the market... but considering a lot of owners will opt for a DCT... that means it is into the >>> $60K area....

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by Spa2k

But that doesn’t mean auto manufacturers base their pricing on it or the CPI. BMW’s increases on the M2 have always been a nice, round $1,000. If there were no M2 Comp, I would have expected the 2019 M2 (LCI) to have been priced at $55,500.

Of course they don't hold to the CPI exclusively, but if you are talking about 2011 prices and 2018 prices then CPI has to be taken into account.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

2016 M3 was $62,000

2018 M3 is $66,500

What exactly is your point? All BMW have gone up in price.

2018 LCI got $2,800 price bump over 2016 M2, for what exactly? Adaptive led and PDC were still not standard.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

sell them to people that don't want to pay 60K for an M2 comp... of course..

Doesn't want a M2C... who even says that, really. Haha