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      05-10-2018, 10:25 AM   #243
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It looks like in the future the competition models will come out very shortly after the base M car .. so clearly wise to wait for those wanting the most performance.
If that is the new norm, initial demand for new M cars will be lower for sure.
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      05-10-2018, 10:33 AM   #244
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If that is the new norm, initial demand for new M cars will be lower for sure.
I donīt think so. I think the demand in total will be higher. Of course less people will buy the "base" M cars but those who donīt buy the model because of the competition coming afterwards will buy this car instead. So the demand in total will be the same or even bigger because of a wider product line-up. But thats also just an estimate by me.
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      05-10-2018, 11:21 AM   #245
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It looks like in the future the competition models will come out very shortly after the base M car .. so clearly wise to wait for those wanting the most performance.
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Basically don’t touch new generation M cars anymore right at release. Just wait for the Competition.
This could really stop the dealer price markups on the base models when they are realeased. If this affects initial demand.
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If that is the new norm, initial demand for new M cars will be lower for sure.
See comment #415 in the thread "Why I will never buy another BMW... (Am I wrong to feel pissed at BMW ?)".
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See comment #415 in the thread "Why I will never buy another BMW... (Am I wrong to feel pissed at BMW ?)".
The M2C was years after M2 launch. If the timeframe of the F90 is the new norm, then it gives early adopters something to think about
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      05-10-2018, 04:01 PM   #247
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The M2C was years after M2 launch. If the timeframe of the F90 is the new norm, then it gives early adopters something to think about
Are First Edition models unique?
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      05-10-2018, 07:56 PM   #248
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Are First Edition models unique?
I believe the M5 is the first " First Edition model " . There were 400 available and I believe they all came in a custom color Frozen Dark red.
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      05-11-2018, 12:13 AM   #249
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Are First Edition models unique?
Sure, it comes with a unique kick to the taint when the M5 Competiton comes out less than a year later. If they do this with the next M3/M4, it will WWIII on the forums. That crowd is a lot more sensitive to things like that.
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      05-11-2018, 03:18 AM   #250
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Sure, it comes with a unique kick to the taint when the M5 Competiton comes out less than a year later. If they do this with the next M3/M4, it will WWIII on the forums. That crowd is a lot more sensitive to things like that.
If you are on the forums at all or paying attention you would have to be a rube to not expect the Competition series to come out pretty early.
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      05-11-2018, 01:02 PM   #251
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If you are on the forums at all or paying attention you would have to be a rube to not expect the Competition series to come out pretty early.
It never use to be like that, the F90 timeframe is new. Sure there is always forum rumors of comp packs, but like the F8x they are usually a couple years down the road. The F8x comp pack was announced a solid two years after base model. The F90 got a Competion model announced 9 months after base car was announced. Early allocation waitlist will be shorter for next gen M3/M4.
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      05-12-2018, 02:24 PM   #252
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It is HS. It looks different in all lighting conditions.

I think.
I absolutely love the HS color!! Reminds me a bit of Porsche Chaulk.
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      05-13-2018, 06:12 AM   #254
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The current generation M2 will sound miles better than the S55 engine.

Quite frankly, the M3/M4 is one of the worst sounding engines I've driven. Unfortunately, the M2 Comp is likely to sound just as bad.
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The current generation M2 will sound miles better than the S55 engine.

Quite frankly, the M3/M4 is one of the worst sounding engines I've driven. Unfortunately, the M2 Comp is likely to sound just as bad.
All we need to do is get AUDI to drop the front drive on their RS3 as per the R8 RWD model and we could all be happy lol
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      05-13-2018, 07:34 PM   #256
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It never use to be like that, the F90 timeframe is new. Sure there is always forum rumors of comp packs, but like the F8x they are usually a couple years down the road. The F8x comp pack was announced a solid two years after base model. The F90 got a Competion model announced 9 months after base car was announced. Early allocation waitlist will be shorter for next gen M3/M4.
It seems like the "Competition" model is the new "S" model, ala Porsche base and S models that are released simultaneously.

BMW couldn't get their respective shit together to get both out for the M5 it seems.
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I absolutely love the HS color!! Reminds me a bit of Porsche Chaulk.
Pics or it didn't happen.
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Just some random BMW’s cruising around today at the munich mainstation

Sorry for the shitty fotos, all i could get...
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      05-14-2018, 07:52 AM   #259
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Just some random BMW's cruising around today at the munich mainstation

Sorry for the shitty fotos, all i could get...
Is that the new Toyota?
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      05-14-2018, 08:04 AM   #260
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      05-14-2018, 08:58 AM   #261
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I saw that test mule today in Munich. I am not sure I like what I am seeing with the Z4. The concept is so nice.... I wonder if the final car will be so nice.

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      05-14-2018, 10:43 AM   #262
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I saw that test mule today in Munich. I am not sure I like what I am seeing with the Z4. The concept is so nice.... I wonder if the final car will be so nice.

MR
I think the production Z4 is going to be disappointing compared to the concept. Plus Toyota is getting the good version, fixed roof coupe.
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