[toastie]

Dinan_Engineering If I pick up the Stage 1 performance tuner and later upgrade to the Stage 4, do I just need to make up the $300 difference to upgrade?

[Rock Sweden]

Originally Posted by Dinan_Engineering

At present the only other plans for the M2 are camber plates and strut braces to my knowledge.

In my armchair tuner opinion, Seems to me there could be a tune that optimizes IC, intake and exhaust. What about a stage 5 with meth injection?? Regardless, I plan to start with IC and S1 tune.

[Rock Sweden]

Originally Posted by toastie

Dinan_Engineering If I pick up the Stage 1 performance tuner and later upgrade to the Stage 4, do I just need to make up the $300 difference to upgrade?

Yes, per the stage one thread.

[chmura]

Originally Posted by Dinan_Engineering

Adjusted in the car after install. Need to re-sync them basically. Without that procedure done the car will throw codes all the time.

Can you tell us how to re-sync the wastegate learning procedure after a turbo replacement?

Is this simply plugging in a dealer scan tool and exercising the waste gates min/max allowances?

Reason why I ask my my buddy has an auto repair shop and a oem to oem turbo swap should be pretty easy for him to do.

The only issue I see to arise here is the syncing the waste gate procedure.

Can you let us know hows its done?

[No Boost]

Originally Posted by Rock Sweden

In my armchair tuner opinion, Seems to me there could be a tune that optimizes IC, intake and exhaust. What about a stage 5 with meth injection?? Regardless, I plan to start with IC and S1 tune.

He's mentioned before, they don't mess with fueling.

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by toastie

Dinan_Engineering If I pick up the Stage 1 performance tuner and later upgrade to the Stage 4, do I just need to make up the $300 difference to upgrade?

Just pay the difference in between the stages.

Originally Posted by Rock Sweden

In my armchair tuner opinion, Seems to me there could be a tune that optimizes IC, intake and exhaust. What about a stage 5 with meth injection?? Regardless, I plan to start with IC and S1 tune.

Don't mess with alternative fuels so there wont be anything beyond a stage 4 I'm afraid. The closest thing is occasionally a 100 octane (race gas) map is brought up for the various platforms but it never seemingly goes anywhere so I wouldn't hold my breathe on that one. A stage 3 option (intercooler based stage) was attempted but there just wasn't anything to be had over stage 1 with the stock turbo. Sure it evened out the power a bit but if the peak number doesnt change no one cares (or will buy).

Originally Posted by chmura

Can you tell us how to re-sync the wastegate learning procedure after a turbo replacement?

Is this simply plugging in a dealer scan tool and exercising the waste gates min/max allowances?

Reason why I ask my my buddy has an auto repair shop and a oem to oem turbo swap should be pretty easy for him to do.

The only issue I see to arise here is the syncing the waste gate procedure.

Can you let us know hows its done?

Its a dealer tool function which requires ISTA or like BMW programming equipment. Not a wrench turner so I honestly don't know the step by step procedure and the option there-in. Sorry. This week is just sales and production with no real technical base in the building so there is no one to ask.

[quikM2]

Does this system work with the MPE? After paying $3500 for it I would hate to part with it or even 'parts' of it. Also we have only shell 91 here or husky 94 with 10% ethanol - would the 91 affect the map and power?

[Dinan_Engineering]

Originally Posted by quikM2

Does this system work with the MPE? After paying $3500 for it I would hate to part with it or even 'parts' of it. Also we have only shell 91 here or husky 94 with 10% ethanol - would the 91 affect the map and power?

Yes it would work fine with the MPE.

When running on 91 you would be yielding less power then what is advertised. Yours gains would be approximately ~15-20% less.

[OBXBMW]

Maybe a stupid question:

With full bore Stage 4 what is expected 0 to 60 and 0 to 100 mph for DCT and 6 MT?

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by OBXBMW

Maybe a stupid question:

With full bore Stage 4 what is expected 0 to 60 and 0 to 100 mph for DCT and 6 MT?

A better question would be 100-200kph

[BFLY]

I inquired about pricing here in Toronto and was surprised by the price tag, nearly 1/3 the price of the car. Labour was close to 40 hrs.

Has anyone in the canadian market got pricing yet?

[Drop the hammer]

I did, for me here in Canada the turbo, IC, intake and tune is approx 8k cdn. Includes installation. They are a dinan BMW dealer, they followed quoted dinan hours for installation on each piece. Shop rates are high here. I'm going for it. Car is perfectly balanced stock (power/handling wise), a bit more power will make it more scary for my daily drive haha. Only downside I see is tire costs hitting me a bit more often.

[Drop the hammer]

No dinan exhaust bits included in that price though, I like the stock sound (with active sound disabled via the harness).

[NOLAGUY]

Originally Posted by BFLY

I inquired about pricing here in Toronto and was surprised by the price tag, nearly 1/3 the price of the car. Labour was close to 40 hrs.

Has anyone in the canadian market got pricing yet?

My local (Louisiana) Dinan dealer is following the Dinan recommend hours. So, 11hrs for turbo, intercooler and tune. They are currently 120/hr.

[quikM2]

Originally Posted by Dinan_Engineering

Yes it would work fine with the MPE.

When running on 91 you would be yielding less power then what is advertised. Yours gains would be approximately ~15-20% less.

10-12 thousand dollars all in for a gain of 55-75 crank hp?? that seems pretty steep dollars to power...

[chmura]

Originally Posted by quikM2

10-12 thousand dollars all in for a gain of 55-75 crank hp?? that seems pretty steep dollars to power...

Isn't the kit $6,047 which includes, intercooler, CAI, exhaust, etc?

Does not seem much at all IMO. I think pricing is fair. People are paying this much money for a single exhaust! MPE people are spending $3-3.5k on!

[MayorAdamWest]

Originally Posted by chmura

Isn't the kit $6,047 which includes, intercooler, CAI, exhaust, etc?

Does not seem much at all IMO. I think pricing is fair. People are paying this much money for a single exhaust! MPE people are spending $3-3.5k on!

I think that's without install, and above someone was quoting 40 hours of labor, so probably at least 10k. That does seem steep for the gains.

[No Boost]

I can assure you that it doesn't take anywhere close 40 hours to install all of the power package components, whether it be stage 1 (3.7 hours) or 4 (13.2 hours).

Click on the "specs" tab for each component on their website to reveal the install time.

[chmura]

Originally Posted by MayorAdamWest

I think that's without install, and above someone was quoting 40 hours of labor, so probably at least 10k. That does seem steep for the gains.

I did not factor the install price.

Usually I DIY everything myself. Exhaust, intercooler, CAI shouldn't be a problem for me to do myself.

I looked at the turbo installation guide and you have to lower the power steering rack and remove water pump? Not sure why.

[BFLY]

Here's my quote:CDN$

S2 Package parts: $13185.90
Hardware for Suspension parts: $191.62
Brokerage/Shipping: $140
Installation: $5486.80
Total: $19004.32+tax

[OBXBMW]

all these quotes about hP gains and no REAL WORLD time numbers.....

[serrated]

My quote was $6225 before tax, for parts + installation by my local dealer. (I told them to put in the order because I NEEDS IT)

That's for turbo, intercooler, intake, and the tune. (I already have MPE) I imagine the dealership will take care of the core charge. $6k for ~100hp ~75lb/ft while maintaining warranty is a good deal in my eyes. Could be worse.