R&T Review: The M2 Competition Isn’t a Better M2, It’s a Different M2

Soul_Glo · 03-22-2019, 02:59 PM

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...n-quick-drive/ ("The M2 Competition Isn’t a Better M2, It’s a Different M2").

ZM2 · 03-22-2019, 10:13 PM

I saw this up earlier today, surprised no one has posted it yet.

“In a perfect world, I’d have the normal M2 with the suspension dynamics, the gauge cluster, and maybe the steering rack from the Competition. None of the updated looks, and the N55 engine under the hood. But this isn’t a perfect world. If I had to choose one over the other, I’d probably go for the regular M2...”

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...n-quick-drive/

I’ll step out of the way now to let you all comment.

Anthony1s · 03-22-2019, 10:23 PM

You just couldn't let us have an argument and stress free weekend, could you haha. I'm abstaining from commenting

Artemis · 03-22-2019, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM2

I saw this up earlier today, surprised no one has posted it yet.

"Felipe, Fernando is faster than you."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chelsea_Tractor

https://apple.news/AcXneXdCOThaUbZuQkWvgww ("The M2 Competition Isn’t a Better M2, It’s a Different M2").

ZM2 · 03-22-2019, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artemis

"Felipe, Fernando is faster than you."

That’s what I get for waiting all afternoon/eve to post it...

Actually, I was going back & forth on if I really wanted to this pot to get stirred more.

MDuckie · 03-22-2019, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM2

I saw this up earlier today, surprised no one has posted it yet.

“In a perfect world, I’d have the normal M2 with the suspension dynamics, the gauge cluster, and maybe the steering rack from the Competition. None of the updated looks, and the N55 engine under the hood. But this isn’t a perfect world. If I had to choose one over the other, I’d probably go for the regular M2...”

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...n-quick-drive/

I’ll step out of the way now to let you all comment.

"I'd probably go for the regular M2, if not simply because lightly used examples have already taken a depreciation hit, and I'm a sucker for a good deal."

You forgot something.

ZM2 · 03-22-2019, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDuckie

"I'd probably go for the regular M2, if not simply because lightly used examples have already taken a depreciation hit, and I'm a sucker for a good deal."

You forgot something.

Hahah, was waiting to see how long it’d take for someone to point that out. Not long!

Slowphiveo · 03-22-2019, 11:07 PM

Can't we all just get along? Same team guys...lol.

Artemis · 03-22-2019, 11:13 PM

"The Competition’s engine also sounds notably less exciting. I’ve never really enjoyed the M3’s or M4’s sound, so that’s not too much of a surprise. Both cars pump fake noise through the speakers, and you notice it immediately. But the normal M2 has a deeper growl without the generic rasp and engineered pops you get in the new car. It’s not like it sounds bad, per se, but it’s the opposite of memorable."

The original M2 N55 engine/exhaust sound: gone, but not forgotten.

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doug_999 · 03-23-2019, 08:31 AM

There is a mistake in the article. When he talks about power delivery, he has it backwards. The M2 is much better for normal driving situations.

No Boost · 03-23-2019, 09:15 AM

Cool. It's been a while since we've had an M2 vs M2C debate.

Yvette · 03-23-2019, 09:37 AM

He is right. Regular M2 is a bargain to buy now, it is being offered at a good price. Remember in the beginning? People even paid mark up above the mrsp. I got my 18’ at a great price too so I agree what he says

AlpsRider · 03-23-2019, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yvette

He is right. Regular M2 is a bargain to buy now, it is being offered at a good price. Remember in the beginning? People even paid mark up above the mrsp. I got my 18’ at a great price too so I agree what he says

Some guy in another thread posted that he just paid 49k and something for a 62k MSRP new M2. Get the deals while you can. I doubt that the M2C will be dropping much until the CS comes out.

Dav3 · 03-23-2019, 11:53 AM

Both are great but the M2C is the finished product

Little things like the M-Seats, Mirrors and that 10-15% increase in performance actually make a noticeable difference

PilotxERAU · 03-23-2019, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiatMultiplaAkrapovic

Both are great but the M2C is the finished product

Little things like the M-Seats, Mirrors and that 10-15% increase in performance actually make a noticeable difference

2022 S58 M2 beats all of you.

heavyD^2 · 03-23-2019, 12:33 PM

His argument is along the lines of the transmission arguments of today with the manual transmission (M2) being more raw and involved albeit not as quick as the DCT (M2C) which is quicker and more polished.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stage IV

Cool. It's been a while since we've had an M2 vs M2C debate.

I agree although it's nice for one of the big car magazines to finally put the two together and note the differences.

Dav3 · 03-23-2019, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotxERAU

2022 S58 M2 beats all of you.

Not bothered at all

M2C is all I wanted the OG M2 to be

As said in another post, there will be a smaller gap between S58 M2 and M2C than between M2C and M2

heavyD^2 · 03-23-2019, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiatMultiplaAkrapovic

As said in another post, there will be a smaller gap between S58 M2 and M2C than between M2C and M2

Not exactly sure how anyone could come to that conclusion seeing we know nothing about the next generation M2. Lets be honest in that the M2 and M2C are essentially the same car except the engines and some small tweaks. The next gen M2 is going to be all new and it could be improved in nearly every area from styling, interior, ride quality, steering, handling, etc making the gap much larger.

akkando · 03-23-2019, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotxERAU

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiatMultiplaAkrapovic

Both are great but the M2C is the finished product

Little things like the M-Seats, Mirrors and that 10-15% increase in performance actually make a noticeable difference

2022 S58 M2 beats all of you.

Probably won't get the s58 unless you get the CS version so you pay g80 m3 price one way or another.

AlpsRider · 03-23-2019, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotxERAU

2022 S58 M2 beats all of you.

=Vaporware at this point. It might be better, it might just be better for BMW from a marketing/cost perspective and not better for us enthusiasts... ya never know.

jmh600cbr · 03-23-2019, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM2

I saw this up earlier today, surprised no one has posted it yet.

"In a perfect world, I'd have the normal M2 with the suspension dynamics, the gauge cluster, and maybe the steering rack from the Competition. None of the updated looks, and the N55 engine under the hood. But this isn't a perfect world. If I had to choose one over the other, I'd probably go for the regular M2..."

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...n-quick-drive/

I'll step out of the way now to let you all comment.

Huh? Gauge cluster didn't change from 18-19

M Coupe · 03-23-2019, 03:39 PM

Have both- argue with yourself instead. Peace be upon everyone else!! Fox Alpha!

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