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There is a very long thread on this board with reviews. I've read all of them, and others.
http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1226088 |
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Cool vid in addition to the post above by Bruce.. http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1226404 |
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03-02-2016, 08:18 AM | #72 | |
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I wanted a smaller BMW not for the sake of wanting a car a few inches shorter, but because of what that should have meant- which is a much lighter, more playful car than the M4. Instead we got something just as heavy, with if anything, less sharp performance components. That my biggest gripe. I've said in the past, I would have paid M4 money if it was a shrunken M4 (and that INCLUDES the implication of less weight) but it isn't, and therefore the M4 should command some kind of premium. |
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03-02-2016, 09:07 AM | #75 | |
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Everyone has a different view but his appeared sensible, unbiased, and rational. I'd love to see more reviews from people on here that actually drove both cars back to back because people here have a lot to offer. |
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03-02-2016, 09:14 AM | #76 | |
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Really waiting on Chris Harris' drive since he's usually the most unbiased. |
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03-02-2016, 09:16 AM | #77 |
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Agreed. It's definitely not my final opinion but I value people who have driven them back to back and aren't in the business of advertising cars.
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03-02-2016, 10:22 AM | #79 | |
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If you know the answer already, from what you believe are logical deductions (as opposed to the weight of input from those with actual seat time), you will find evidence to conform to it, and ways to dismiss evidence that does not. I'm going to withhold judgment until I get that seat time, but I'm not simply going to look at the respective build sheets and pre-determine the answer. |
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And I do value a, "laypersons" view to the same if not greater level than these talking heads in these car mags. |
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Those M2 lease numbers...
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03-03-2016, 02:39 AM | #84 |
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People might lean towards M3/M4 for...
1. more customization on aesthetic (FULL ON INDIVIDUAL, exterior color, leather color, painted trim or what not ... etc) 2. better interior and options (full/ partial leather, merino leather seats <also a completely M designed seat to their own>, ambient light, bigger, more spacious interior to people who have the need for it) 3. Ability to option for the HUD (for some might not be that important.. But I do find it useful for myself) 4. More customizable M experience (adaptive dampers / shifting speed / throttle control customization each to their own) 5. An engine completely dedicated to their own S55B30 6. Use of carbon fiber parts to achieve more weigh reduction and premiumness to buyers (CF roof, CF driveschaft, CF trunk... etc) People might lean towards M2 for (but not limit to) 1. more raw experiences of M 2. lower MSRP to enter the M world 3. shorter wheel base giving more nimble control 4. something more true to the brand In my opinion, these two cars have their own markets, I find it quite unnecessary to compare between M2 vs M4/M3 and see whats worth. For example, I personally have M3 for daily driving/ road trip and people hauling if necessary. (The M3/M4 seats are very comfortable, you might not feel it right away but long road trip would tell. I had the F30 with sports seats <same as M2> before, its not uncomfortable, but you do feel sore after a bit. Not an issue with the M4 bucket seats) I would also have M2 in manual as my track/fun car. For me two cars don't overlap. If you are to only able to have one car, consider this: 1. What do you REALLY want? If you prefer nimble handling and tighter package, just go for M2. No matter what M4 has to offer you probably won't be into it. If you prefer a still pretty rawish car while having some quality of a GT car, go for M3/M4 2. What makes more sense for you financially? If we are talking financing both cars, would you be able to justify the higher payments of M3/M4? (I omit leasing as it doesn't really make sense for the 49% residual BMW set at launch... seriously don't lease M2 now...) 3. Is factory personalization a factor for you? Do you want your car a specific color painted from factory pair with outrageous interior leather color? Or you are more than satisfied with what the M2 has to offer? (which as of right now, the production plant does not have individual options) Again, M3/M4 is not necessary "superior" or "inferior" to M2 in any way, it's just who they're marketed towards and what the buyer wants... Just like we wouldn't compare between M3 sedan and M5 sedan... Yea they're both M sedans with M tech everywhere... But I don't think its necessary to explain why M5 is more expansive right ?
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