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      11-12-2019, 01:56 PM   #23
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I don't see why, the M240i Racing uses Adaptive LED Headlights without concern for weight reduction.
For a real M car, BMW likes to take away fancy options and charge you more for the privilege of lightening your car... and your wallet.
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I don't see why, the M240i Racing uses Adaptive LED Headlights without concern for weight reduction.
For a real M car, BMW likes to take away fancy options and charge you more for the privilege of lightening your car... and your wallet.
Your probably right but it's just a $800 add-on from the standard LEDs.

I believe it has more to do with the "Adaptive" feature, with its added weight, not being needed on a racetrack than cost-cutting.
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Could be because of no pre-load. Or perhaps because they are unable to customize the firmware for the application, or it can't meet durablity or thermal requirements for true race use.
Electronic torque-vectoring is not allowed under the rules package.
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Could be because of no pre-load. Or perhaps because they are unable to customize the firmware for the application, or it can't meet durablity or thermal requirements for true race use.
Electronic torque-vectoring is not allowed under the rules package.
It's considered a form of "cheating" I guess?
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You could go buy the brakes (something very similar) right now. Not so much the fuel tank.

Would love to have at least a 15 gallon tank personally.
This has basically been the worst part of owning the M2 so far. My 350Z had a 20 gallon tank and got a few more mpgs. I feel like i'm CONSTANTLY putting gas in the M2, though i gues each trip is a little cheaper.
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I had a good chuckle reading the title

///M stands for Motorsport to start, so BMW now has a "Motorsport Motorsport" division
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Is the racing road legal?
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They skipped the M2C Racing.

"As with the predecessor models, the BMW M235i Racing and the BMW M240i Racing, several platforms around the world will be available to the new car apart from its main stomping grounds, the VLN Endurance Championship Nürburgring and the TC America."

Very interesting that they went from the ZF8 to the DCT and finally from N55 to S55 engine. I wonder if the endurance drivers will start seeing reliability issues with a true twin-turbo setup. Still cool to see such close alignment now between the street and race cars! As a M240i owner, it was kind of weird to see a M240i Racing with the N55 engine...
They simply use the transmission that comes on the car the "racing" version is based on. The M235 and M240 street cars use the 8AT and so does their racing version. The M2 and M4 use a 7-DCT and so do their respective racing versions.
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I had a good chuckle reading the title

///M stands for Motorsport to start, so BMW now has a "Motorsport Motorsport" division
Yup, and it's not a typo either.

BMW Motorsport now has two subdivisions under its umbrella, BMW M Motorsport and BMW i Motorsport.



I suppose we can add "BMW Motorsport Motorsport" to the list of redundant acronyms, with some of the others being "Automated Teller Machine Machine" (ATM Machine), "Liquid Crystal Display Display" (LCD Display), and "Portable Document Format Format" (PDF Format)
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I just want that 120liter (32 gallon) gas tank for my M2C
If you could take anything, it would be the brakes.
You could go buy the brakes (something very similar) right now. Not so much the fuel tank.

Would love to have at least a 15 gallon tank personally.
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I just want that 120liter (32 gallon) gas tank for my M2C
You can... as soon as the parts catalog for this car goes online.

Till then, you can buy the 22 Gallon tank from the 235iR

P/N: 16008417156 ... it's like $10k lol
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You can... as soon as the parts catalog for this car goes online.

Till then, you can buy the 22 Gallon tank from the 235iR

P/N: 16008417156 ... it's like $10k lol
Holy hell...

Do you know offhand if its a direct replacement for OEM?
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You can... as soon as the parts catalog for this car goes online.

Till then, you can buy the 22 Gallon tank from the 235iR

P/N: 16008417156 ... it's like $10k lol
Holy hell...

Do you know offhand if its a direct replacement for OEM?
Found it cheaper here

This is so Ridiculous but very appealing .


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///M stands for Motorsport to start, so BMW now has a "Motorsport Motorsport" division

I suppose we can add "BMW Motorsport Motorsport" to the list of redundant acronyms, with some of the others being "Automated Teller Machine Machine" (ATM Machine), "Liquid Crystal Display Display" (LCD Display), and "Portable Document Format Format" (PDF Format)
Don't forget the obvious- VIN number

Edit: all this sales data and no curb weight or have I missed it?
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I suppose we can add "BMW Motorsport Motorsport" to the list of redundant acronyms, with some of the others being "Automated Teller Machine Machine" (ATM Machine), "Liquid Crystal Display Display" (LCD Display), and "Portable Document Format Format" (PDF Format)
That's called the RAS Syndrome ('Redundant Acronym Syndrome' syndrome, which itself is self-referential): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome
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I had a good chuckle reading the title

///M stands for Motorsport to start, so BMW now has a "Motorsport Motorsport" division
It hasn't actually stood for Motorsport since 1993 when the name was officially changed though.
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It hasn't actually stood for Motorsport since 1993 when the name was officially changed though.
Sounds like a pretty cheap race car for the money. I would be happy to throw cash at it, as its a track car. Caged and you spend cash on a normal M2 to get it to that level. Perfect option. So in for this one.
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Found it cheaper here

This is so Ridiculous but very appealing .


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Jebus almost as bad as the 1.5K M4 GT4 S55 dipstick...

Also the M differential in the RWD models is NOT TORQUE VECTORING DAMN IT!

It has variable lock. This might be against regs or simply no hardcore enough for Motorsport use or maybe to unpredictable as the computer decides when to lock the diff.
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Also the M differential in the RWD models is NOT TORQUE VECTORING DAMN IT!

It has variable lock. This might be against regs or simply no hardcore enough for Motorsport use or maybe to unpredictable as the computer decides when to lock the diff.
Probably all the above but the unpredictability might be the main reason. A set lockup is more race track friendly when the brake based assist is tuned out.

Check out the 235i below with a M Performance 40% locking diff, notice how linear it is to control around the track.


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Normally those E-diffs brake the wheels, instead of a good old mechanical diff that accelerates the wheel with most grip.
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The non adaptive headlights look cute but doesn't fit with the angular grills imo.

Also why does it have less horsepower?
This is irrelevant. It's the M2 CS, built for track use. If you want adaptive headlights buy something more street oriented like a normal M2
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