[COChris]

Has anyone made this jump yet, or just driven the two back to back? If so, can you please reply with your impressions? Thanks!

[MKParris]

I'll make it easy for you it's a 5% increase in performance for a 30% increase in price.

[BigKutta]

Go here for CS forum, I'm sure I've read of a few. For me personally, I was going to be in the market for an M2 right about now, but some circumstances made me buy last December. Had I seen the CS available now, I would have given it a very hard look (I'm so tempted even now to upgrade ), but so glad that I already have an M2C. An extra 20-25k is a bit much for the CS, given the minor performance improvement over the C. Now, if I had an OG, then that's a different story.

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=864

[chmura]

Originally Posted by MKParris

I'll make it easy for you it's a 5% increase in performance for a 30% increase in price.

Couldn’t have said it better.

[GregInNewMexico]

Originally Posted by chmura

Couldn’t have said it better.

If it is performance you want, it could be argued that it would be a wiser investment to get a tune with a warranty, and still have nice features like arm rests.

The CS is just too spartan for me. Also the alcantara steering wheel is a huge turnoff. Plus if I am gonna spend over 80k for a small powerful vehicle, I am gonna head over to the Porsche dealer first.

[GarageMadness]

Originally Posted by GregInNewMexico

If it is performance you want, it could be argued that it would be a wiser investment to get a tune with a warranty, and still have nice features like arm rests.

The CS is just too spartan for me. Also the alcantara steering wheel is a huge turnoff. Plus if I am gonna spend over 80k for a small powerful vehicle, I am gonna head over to the Porsche dealer first.

yeah. I agree. it's not like it was just a couple of thousand more like when I bought my CR vs the base trim s2000.

[2PUTT]

for the money, i do not think it is worth going from a Comp to a CS. personally, i don't like having adjustable suspension. i prefer a static setting just like the coilovers i installed in my car.

[GarageMadness]

Originally Posted by 2PUTT

for the money, i do not think it is worth going from a Comp to a CS. personally, i don't like having adjustable suspension. i prefer a static setting just like the coilovers i installed in my car.

which ones did you get?

[j23]

I had a deposit down briefly on a CS. Ultimately, I came to my senses and backed out.

The CS comes with a few nice perks:
- more power
- carbon parts

Everything else is either a downgrade or unnecessary. I had OEM Alcantara steering wheel in my e46 M3 - never again! It requires too much care to keep clean and good looking. Every BMW leather steering wheel will outlast Alcantara by like 5-to-1 with little to no care. Plus, I'm so used to having a heated steering wheel that I could never trade it for some Alcantara crap that isn't heated. Now, I'm sure the CS suspension is marginally better than the Comp, but if I truly wanted a suspension upgrade worth a damn, I would have opted for a high end coilover setup with remote reservoirs. I also prefer the stealth badges and darkened look on the M2 Comp. The CS badging and exhaust tips look terrible IMO.

If money was no object, I would choose the CS, swap the steering wheel from the Comp, black out the badges/exhaust, and seriously consider retrofitting a normal center console with an armrest. But since money is an object, it felt stupid to spend 30% more on an otherwise identical car with a few extras.

[scoale]

Originally Posted by COChris

Has anyone made this jump yet, or just driven the two back to back? If so, can you please reply with your impressions? Thanks!

At the M2cs price point it is no longer an M2c versus M2cs question; you now should include other cars at that next-level price point into the comparison. At $60k the M2c stands alone (in my view). At $85 to $90k, not so much...

[Karmic Man]

If you are tracking it regularly get the M2C..spend a few grand on high temp pads, entry level coilovers like KW V3, Bilstein B16, MPS and run Trofeo R 245/265 35 19 or Cup 2 265/285 30 19 or RE71RS 255/275 35 19 or A052 255/275 35 19

That's all you'll need

If you can further spare a a few more grands...get wider and lighter forged wheels (Titan 7..etc) 9.5/10.5 to run wider tyres...265/295, 275/295, 275/305...will destroy an M2CS in braking, corner entry, corner exit...all for about 10 grand

[white2abbit]

All the CF parts add up to quite a bit (was just quoted like $12k CAD for a CS hood), but for me the main reason I didn't consider swapping for a CS is that it's just all-around less practical. The rear seats don't fold, no heated steering wheel, less interior storage, etc. And plus, I bought the M2C to purposely drive as much as possible, rain, shine or snow. I WANT to rack up the mileage, and with a CS I feel like that'd always be slightly looming over me (it does with my GT4, as much as I try to ignore it).

[Al Bundy's Dodge]

Originally Posted by BigKutta

Go here for CS forum, I'm sure I've read of a few. For me personally, I was going to be in the market for an M2 right about now, but some circumstances made me buy last December. Had I seen the CS available now, I would have given it a very hard look (I'm so tempted even now to upgrade ), but so glad that I already have an M2C. An extra 20-25k is a bit much for the CS, given the minor performance improvement over the C. Now, if I had an OG, then that's a different story.

https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=864

OG owner here. The story is the same.

FWIW I actually have more desire to go from OG to M2C than to the CS. I love the aesthetics of the CS, adaptive suspension, and the performance reviews...but the value just isn't there for me.

I still think the OG is the best bang for the buck

[Bumpinjeep]

I don't think you're going to find a lot of people that have driven the car just yet. They're finally arriving stateside. So if you're looking for a honest review, it's going to take some time.
Personally, I love the cool factor, but that price hike is just too much in my opinion. Then again, who knows, maybe in a few years these cars will sky rocket in value and we will all look like fools.

[scoale]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I don't think you're going to find a lot of people that have driven the car just yet. They're finally arriving stateside. So if you're looking for a honest review, it's going to take some time.
Personally, I love the cool factor, but that price hike is just too much in my opinion. Then again, who knows, maybe in a few years these cars will sky rocket in value and we will all look like fools.

That will be heavily influenced by next gen M2. For example, if it comes with adaptive suspension, CF hood, better steering and, of course, S58, it may be a real winner. Let's see how a comp pack G87 compares.

On the other hand, if BMW screws it up.....

[2PUTT]

Originally Posted by GarageMadness

which ones did you get?

I went with M Performance since it is made by KW and will give me less headaches at the dealers. Luckily, my dealer has been good even with my KW V3 equipped 135is back in the day.

[robertm]

Don't think you buy the CS just for the performance increase. Don't think you buy it just for the cosmetic upgrades, don't think you buy it just for it's exclusivity. But, when you add all of that up you do have a very compelling car. The performance bump is likely the least important of the three aspects which is good because power is easy to make in the M2 and not really needed. Cosmetically, it will be tough to build an M2 comp into an M2cs for an extra $25k using factory parts. Exclusivity it's something you can't build either.

A lot of people get hung up on the base price of a Comp compared to the base of the CS. They are far from being equivalent though.

To get a Comp close to CS spec will quickly get you to the same amount of money or more. As an example, my white, manual car stickered for $74k, add M763 wheels and it hit $80k. Installing the M-perf suspension with alignment after the sale was another $3k. Now you have a M2 Comp with a better exhaust, heated steering wheel, arm rest but no carbon roof, no carbon hood, no bad ass seats, no adj susp, no factory power bump, no red calipers and absolutely not the exclusivity of the CS. Let's not even mention resale value of an $83k M2 comp vs an $85k M2 CS.

At the end of the day BMW has created a lot of very cool product and given people with different means and desires the opportunity to spend their money however they want. For some that's an M2 og, for some it's an M2 comp and some its the CS. All three are fantastic cars and should celebrated by the members of this community not picked on because of personal preference or bias towards specific model.

[W///]

Originally Posted by robertm

Don't think you buy the CS just for the performance increase. Don't think you buy it just for the cosmetic upgrades, don't think you buy it just for it's exclusivity. But, when you add all of that up you do have a very compelling car. The performance bump is likely the least important of the three aspects which is good because power is easy to make in the M2 and not really needed. Cosmetically, it will be tough to build an M2 comp into an M2cs for an extra $25k using factory parts. Exclusivity it's something you can't build either.

A lot of people get hung up on the base price of a Comp compared to the base of the CS. They are far from being equivalent though.

To get a Comp close to CS spec will quickly get you to the same amount of money or more. As an example, my white, manual car stickered for $74k, add M763 wheels and it hit $80k. Installing the M-perf suspension with alignment after the sale was another $3k. Now you have a M2 Comp with a better exhaust, heated steering wheel, arm rest but no carbon roof, no carbon hood, no bad ass seats, no adj susp, no factory power bump, no red calipers and absolutely not the exclusivity of the CS. Let's not even mention resale value of an $83k M2 comp vs an $85k M2 CS.

At the end of the day BMW has created a lot of very cool product and given people with different means and desires the opportunity to spend their money however they want. For some that's an M2 og, for some it's an M2 comp and some its the CS. All three are fantastic cars and should celebrated by the members of this community not picked on because of personal preference or bias towards specific model.

Agreed completely. Personally, I'm more interested in the M2C but I'm thrilled for the guys getting a CS. While I personally couldn't justify the price bump, there's 0 doubt in mind the car will go down as one of the greats. I see no problem putting the CS in the same sentence as the 1M, E46 M3 CSL, 2002 Turbo ect... IMHO, the car will hold it's value as I feel like this is the last of its kind.

Personally, I'll be happy to add either an G87 or F87C to the collection, as depreciation works in my favor

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by white2abbit

All the CF parts add up to quite a bit (was just quoted like $12k CAD for a CS hood), but for me the main reason I didn't consider swapping for a CS is that it's just all-around less practical. The rear seats don't fold, no heated steering wheel, less interior storage, etc. And plus, I bought the M2C to purposely drive as much as possible, rain, shine or snow. I WANT to rack up the mileage, and with a CS I feel like that'd always be slightly looming over me (it does with my GT4, as much as I try to ignore it).

What? The rear seats don't fold on the CS? That's just plain stupid! What about track tires?!

[QM]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

What? The rear seats don't fold on the CS? That's just plain stupid! What about track tires?!

Sure they do: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1765299&page=2

[DanG]

My problem is the M2CS has lost the screw downs for the roof rack.

[kart driver]

Originally Posted by DanG

My problem is the M2CS has lost the screw downs for the roof rack.

Why do you need it?