02-27-2019, 11:08 AM | #265 |
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It seems like I've read more comments like yours, more people iffy on the EDC than raving about it. Is it just one of those features that seems perfect in concept but too many variables means it's just never going to please most of the people even some of the time?
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If the adaptive shocks could truly transform the car from a cushy daily driver to a flat handling track car they would absolutely be worth it but that's not the case now. |
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02-27-2019, 11:23 AM | #267 |
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It's very noticeable if the roads are crap... i.e. where I live
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02-27-2019, 11:26 AM | #268 |
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I don't understand the decision to add Adaptive Suspension. I will mirror other's comments that I felt little difference in the different modes in the M4. There definitely IS a small difference. However, in a more hardcore, driver's car variant of the M2, I would think they should just include the M-Performance Coilovers, not try to make it more comfortable (which the adaptive suspension fails at). The M4 GTS doesn't have adaptive dampers. I can't remember if the M3/M4 CS does.
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By comparison, the difference between Comfort, Sport, and Sport + is readily apparent to me in the steering department. Also with the throttle mapping between the three options. But the car doesn't feel "floaty" in Comfort, or "hunkered down" in Sport + on the suspension side. I asked the service guy if mine was broken once, because I feel no difference at all, and he looked at me like I was nuts.
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Not sure - but I would assume you're right...adaptive dampers surely weigh more than a standard, fixed suspension...perhaps someone else with an F80/82 knows for sure.
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Adaptive Suspension in M cars are catered more towards performance and not so much ensuring a cushy ride.
It's worth it IMO and BMW wouldn't of added stock in the M4 CS, which adds cost and complexity, unless they felt it warranted its purpose. Supposedly, on the G series, BMW improved it even further as they now call it Adaptive M Suspension (Version 2). : Maybe some of the complaints about it not being discernible are now alleviated on the newer iterations. The member in the post below broke it down better than I ever could: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=942225 https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...ntrol/EBRqGBoO |
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It wasn't added in GTS because they figure that vehicle's demographic would prefer HAS, which is only available in coilovers. All auto manufactures are adding adaptive suspension, even my mother's new Honda Accord has it stock, so I'm sorry but I want it in my BMW also. Even if only means eliminating this blank button: #OCD |
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02-27-2019, 12:31 PM | #279 |
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I agree with Poochie that Adaptive suspension was meant for performance. I think the concept was to allow travel over sharp bumps but stiffen for slow movements and pressures so the car will be more planted. The ability to dynamically set the suspension to different settings was just a side feature that came along. However, I feel that it doesn't work that well in practice and the benefits are better felt on the street rather than the track. Perhaps it was improved now? I just know that bmw is probably heavily invested in the technology and cannot just scrap it because other manufacturers are developing similar technology.
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I am enjoying the fixed suspension in my M2C. I know how it is going to handle in a given situation. The adaptive suspension has a mind of its own which is out of the drivers' control. |
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02-27-2019, 01:22 PM | #282 |
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Strange about the BMW adaptive suspension because I found it was noticeable in the Golf R and the Focus RS is night and day between normal and sport.
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02-27-2019, 01:26 PM | #283 | |
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In any event, I swapped the fixed stock suspension on my LCI for a set of Ohlins R&T and noticed the difference immediately. Still firm but the rear chatter is gone, plus a slightly lower stance adds a nice touch of aggressiveness. I do miss the HUD and the Surround view from the F30 though I have to admit...these would be nice additions to the CS, although I'm sure most will say it just adds weight...that Surround view is a rim/wheel saver though!! |
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02-27-2019, 01:49 PM | #284 |
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I think the problem is the need for a button on the part of Marketing.
If it were truly Adaptive, it would be able to give a Magic Carpet ride with no roll or pitch from a single setting. |
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02-27-2019, 01:59 PM | #285 | |
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It's not an add-on to the vehicle, it becomes one with the vehicle's electronics, including the M programable profile. I sincerely doubt penny-pinching BMW added all that just to fill in the blanks on some button or add one line in some marketing pamphlet. . |
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02-27-2019, 02:29 PM | #286 |
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Adaptive or not, this is the first model in the F87 M2 range to have a new, different, suspension, period. It should also regain a decent weight and some nice features, like factory installed carbon roof.
As I already said before, this logically seems to be the OG M2 upgrade initially conceived by the engineers and delayed by the marketing only to hastily replace the obsolete emissions N55 and sell a ‘’few’’ downgraded S55 ‘s with a hefty 50 kilos ‘’bonus’’ and lots of expensive carbon fiber aftermarket parts to the credulous crowd convinced they were given the deal of the century by the BMW benefactor. Receiving a new pompous badge and M mirrors with a heavier version of an already high weight sports car with identical suspension might be all that a lot of fanboys wanted, but this finally was a pill hard to swallow for anyone caring for driving dynamics. P.S. it really makes you wander, did really BMW finally f***ed the early adopters of a decent OG M2 package or the shy initial experiment was in the end a success that led to what BMW M(arketing) does best? Last edited by flyaway; 02-27-2019 at 02:35 PM.. |
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