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      01-22-2016, 12:18 PM   #23
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Wow. Akrapovic finally seems to be the more reasonable option.
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Just got my production number yesterday and I would normally be interested as the performance exhausts are usually very nice. The performance exhaust for my e90 and e82 are great. I don't need or want a remote for my exhaust. Axle back, no performance gains of any even small amount, and outrageous price tell me they completely missed the target market on this one. I'll wait for someone else's cat back with no gadgets that will break over time.
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Akra's will be the same range in price. It is the same with F8x.

Not surprised.
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Akra is probably one of the few "aftermarket" brands that has the build quality, fit & finish, lightweight construction, and durability that surpasses OEM in every regard while still being a better performance option.

Especially when an MPE demands such a high asking price with no gains, no weight savings, and inferior materials/construction, the Akrapovič becomes a no-brainer.

If anyone has ever unboxed an Akra titanium exhaust, its a work of art & one almost feels guilty that such a beautifully crafted piece sits at the bottom on a car.
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... all the warranty fanatics are rejoicing.

Does the price include the carbon diffuser that the exhaust requires as well, we may have missed that in tripping over the price.

Regardless, I can get a full (hand made) 100% titanium exhaust for my STi for $995.

This ///M tax BS is out of control, nothing about that exhaust puts it close to the $2k mark - tips included.
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Also, the exhaust is constructed from stainless steel, so don't expect much weight savings over factory.

Few gains should be expected just from changing axle back exhaust on a turbocharged BMW because 1) the main restrictions are in the two catalytic converters, which are retained with an axle-back exhaust and 2) no gains should be expected without remapping the ECU because the ECU is always correcting, so for example if the car loses backpressure, the ECU will reduce power.
So...an "M Performance" exhaust without more performance?
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I just want to hear the standard exhaust first
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OK, I agree that it's overpriced but what were you guys expecting? MPE for M3/4 costs $5k plus $1k for the titanium tips and guess what? No performance gain for M3/4 either. Considering F8x MPE costs $6K in total, I'm not surprised or extremely disappointed with the $3K MPE for M2.
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I'm sorry, let me see if I understand.

This is an "M Performance Exhaust". It does not save weight. It does not add power. It does not improve performance. It has a remote control for the sound. It costs over $3000. And again, that's the M "Performance" Exhaust.

I have defended BMW for many things. This one is indefensible.
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Can't wait to see the MPE price in $CAD...

Hopefully the price was set last year when our dollar was high
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Sheesh, think I will pass at that price, but I think as standard it will sound great.
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Akra's are usually slip-ons, and rarely do they ever mate with the stock exhaust. Meaning it's a slice and dice job. Been down that road a couple times with their systems.

They're also going to be quite a bit more expensive than the M Performance system.

Also, ever since the introduction of these "valve" based systems, prices have gone up. You've now added in electronics into the exhaust system. It's only common sense that it would be more expensive. The Akra's don't have this technology. It's one size fits all sound. You don't like the way it sounds? Stick a sock in a muffler, or punch a hole in one. That's really the only way to adjust the loudness.

The M Performance line is geared towards those who like OEM equipment, as it's "safer". Being a BMW part, warranty stays intact. Not the case for any aftermarket system.

If you think this is pricey, wait for the Armytrix or Supersprint or IPE systems. Those will be double this price.

Personally, I think this a very fair price.
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OK, I agree that it's overpriced but what were you guys expecting? MPE for M3/4 costs $5k plus $1k for the titanium tips and guess what? No performance gain for M3/4 either. Considering F8x MPE costs $6K in total, I'm not surprised or extremely disappointed with the $3K MPE for M2.
The MPE for the M235i is quite similar but is missing the sound modes. But it costs under $1000. This isn't 3-4 times as good. Have to wait for the Akrapovic price, saw in the price list that it is listed as Ti at the moment so it won't be cheaper!
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Absolutely !

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Wow pricey. I think I'll wait to see what Akrapovic will come out with instead! Presumably there will be a lighter weight titanium option there.
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Can't wait to see the MPE price in $CAD...

Hopefully the price was set last year when our dollar was high
Christ can you imagine in CAD? Probably around $5K I would guess?
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The MPE for the M235i is quite similar but is missing the sound modes. But it costs under $1000. This isn't 3-4 times as good. Have to wait for the Akrapovic price, saw in the price list that it is listed as Ti at the moment so it won't be cheaper!
I totally agree with you! I would have expected the M2 MPE to be approx 1.5x to 2x the M235i, but to be 3x to 4x the price, I am a little shocked as well. Anyhow, I will wait for the "official" Canadian pricing...
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Christ can you imagine in CAD? Probably around $5K I would guess?
No I do not want to imagine... I will have nightmare.

My "guestimate" is 2500 $CAD for the MPE.
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I just want to hear the standard exhaust first
Check out the news and you can hear it a little bit on hat video of the white one coming out of the truck on a cold start. It honestly sounds badass stock
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