[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

Have to understand also that the M2 comes standard with leather seats and Nav. Add all that up and the M235i comes out to $48,545. $51k - $48.5k = a difference of only $2.5k!

Nav standard??

[chris719]

Originally Posted by bdaddylo

Sure, some may say funky, but there 1M has one of the widest/most aggressive fender flares than any other BMW besides maybe the Z3 M. Neither of us have seen M2's fenders, but I'm quite sure it won't be as aggressive as the 1Ms.

That's because the 1 series coupe was narrow and had a belly like a pregnant cat. They had to compensate.

[DS_BMW]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

Nav standard??

Yeah how do you know this?

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by chris719

That's because the 1 series coupe was narrow and had a belly like a pregnant cat. They had to compensate.

Not exactly. Its because the 1er in general looked wilder by comparison and was way more aggressive by design.

The M235i is soft to begin with. Go take a look at the Fender flares on a 128i or135i.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

That is a very long gestation period? Are you an elephant, by chance?

alien. lol

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by bimmer4life24

Have to understand also that the M2 comes standard with leather seats and Nav. Add all that up and the M235i comes out to $48,545. $51k - $48.5k = a difference of only $2.5k!

They also throw in the black 437 M 19" wheels 'free of charge':

• M2: stock
• M3/M3: EUR2,050 option (Germany)

Sure about NAV being stock ?

[bimmer4life24]

Originally Posted by Artemis

They also throw in the black 437 M 19" wheels 'free of charge':

• M2: stock
• M3/M3: EUR2,050 option (Germany)

Sure about NAV being stock ?

That's what I remember reading. Nav will be standard

[Papethova]

Originally Posted by Desert_Fox

Hopefully you have a good relationship and they'll swing MSRP.

MSRP? Im shooting for invoice... I do think some will mark them up though, especially those that think this is the second coming of the 1M.

Look hard enough and the invoice deals can be had, I had at least half a dozen allocations at invoice for the 1M.... and every other car Ive ever owned.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Papethova

MSRP? Im shooting for invoice... I do think some will mark them up though, especially those that think this is the second coming of the 1M.

Look hard enough and the invoice deals can be had, I had at least half a dozen allocations at invoice for the 1M.... and every other car Ive ever owned.

And your1M was a special low numbered car. So I agree 100%.

[scheneider]

U realize those are marketing stuff right

Originally Posted by bdaddylo

For low mileage 1Ms I don't see the prices dropping too much as it has the following advantages over the M2:

It's the original Pyrat
Low production numbers
Hydraulic steering
No fake sound
More aggressive styling
The story

[raysspl]

Fairly priced. Not bad.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

In mineral gray....for my girl of course.

See how I start rationalizing this shit ?

How much better than BMWFS ?Isn't that military only association?

[M3 n X5M]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Agreed. I was doing a bit of reading to see any differentiators or a reason to not spend the additional cash for the M2 but I couldn't find any. I guess if people decide to go for the M2 over the M235i, it's better for BMW but Mercedes indirectly screwed BMW here. The CLA only has the CLA250 and and CLA45, obviously the difference is huge both mechanically and price (15k difference?). The 2-Series has 228i, M235i and now M2 with the price within the same range.

The CLA45 and its lower non-AMG alternative are FWD with a piggy rear diff to make AWD.

So it is cheaper to make the non-AMG version than a base RWD car such as the 228i.

Hence the price diff in the merc situation.

I had guessed the M2 would price 54-56k!!!! The 51k price is awesome!!!!!

[swagon]

I guess the Navigation system Professional will not be standard in Europe. They ain't very generous here.

Standard nav or not, the price is really good if you spec the M235i with leather seats and whatnot.

[CRtoE92]

Navi is not standard i remember seeing that in the official spec sheet

51k is decent pricing considering that M2 does not come with many as standard equipment

It can easily reach low 60k with decent option while M3 starts in low 60k with more power and some decent standard equipment

Im not saying M2 is not worth it.... Just know that BMW already increased the price from previous model 1M and see how much room there is for profit for BMW

[CRtoE92]

Originally Posted by CRtoE92

Navi is not standard i remember seeing that in the official spec sheet

51k is a lot considering that M2 does not come with many as standard equipment

It can easily reach low 60k with decent option

I found a list of option on the spec sheet

As you can see, many little things are listed as option

[david.orr]

from the day i bought the 1M in 2011, i predicted it would be surpassed by a M2 with 365bhp and carried 4 colours instead of 3. even though i live in Oz, from the day i bought the 235, i predicted a USD51k for M2. i also foresaw Donald Trump running for US presidency even tho i'm sydneysider. it's also coming true!!!

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by CRtoE92

I found a list of option on the spec sheet

As you can see, many little things are listed as option

That is no the US spec sheet thought. We usually get some of the options as standard and there are packages instead of al la carte.

[CRtoE92]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

That is no the US spec sheet thought. We usually get some of the options as standard and there are packages instead of al la carte.

Ohhh ok in that case, lets hope that many of these come as standard!

[spuntyb]

If true, fantastic deal. Expected $55k-$58k.

[F83]

Originally Posted by W///

On the contrary. Like I said, Benz starts at 48k. You add DCT to that $51k base and you are looking at 54k. And that's still without adding options (assuming there are any). Not what I'd call cheap, but certainly makes you wonder why you'd buy an M235i/240i at this point.

Good for us guys that want strippers though

+1. Typical build will likely be low 60s. Stripper price gets them the competitive opening price point but its the typical/average build that actually affects their P&L.

[Nahlem]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

If true, fantastic deal. Expected $55k-$58k.

There is no such thing as a "Fantastic deal" when it comes to cars there is just a lot less worse then the previous one you made.

Very exited for the release today!!!