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      09-15-2015, 08:17 PM   #155
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Yep I figure I've waited this long surely I can wait another 4 weeks until the reveal or future spies in between. I posted in the other thread that shows a probable comparison of the m235i racing and the recent LBB pic and I think this is really how the rear will look on the M2 and this makes me happy.
They're definitely not exact. M2 feels way more sculpted. You can see that the shape is different. But the width is similar.
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I just spoke to Classic BMW in Cleveland, OH and the CA just told me the M2 does not exist. There is no M2 SOP, let alone a delay in that SOP. They don't have an official wait either b/c QUOTE, "There is no car!"
Could this have any validity at all? Out of the 1/2 dozen dealerships I've contacted, this is the only dealership that has told me "There is no car"
As you all are too...I AM TIRED OF WAITING
If that dealership persists, then I see an opportunity for you to make an interesting bet:
"Your commitment: if the F87 M2 goes on sale in 2016, then you shall offer me one in [COLOR] with [TRANSMISSION TYPE] - with a right of first refusal for me - at MSRP minus 15%.
My commitment: if the F87 M2 won't go on sale in 2016 then [YOUR QUID PRO QUO]."
Challenge them. Get it in writing. They will be toast, haha.
First car is already sold to the owner of the dealer ....
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Yep I figure I've waited this long surely I can wait another 4 weeks until the reveal or future spies in between. I posted in the other thread that shows a probable comparison of the m235i racing and the recent LBB pic and I think this is really how the rear will look on the M2 and this makes me happy.
Yea, it would have been silly to have waited all this time for the M2 and make a move now. Besides, I'm going to wait until the Competition Pack comes out for the M3 before even considering doing anything.

So I'm potentially looking at next summer at the very earliest, but probably more like Summer 2017. Having my name on the list for an M2 was just for precaution.
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      09-16-2015, 09:45 AM   #158
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Yea, it would have been silly to have waited all this time for the M2 and make a move now. Besides, I'm going to wait until the Competition Pack comes out for the M3 before even considering doing anything.

So I'm potentially looking at next summer at the very earliest, but probably more like Summer 2017. Having my name on the list for an M2 was just for precaution.
Man, if you can survive through the countless M2 delivery threads props to you
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Man, if you can survive through the countless M2 delivery threads props to you
I would think it is classified as torture in some states to browse forums 2 years before you buy...
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Man, if you can survive through the countless M2 delivery threads props to you
Oh I'll make it. Like I said many times, this will be the first and last car I buy new. There's no way in hell I'm going to get this wrong. Ideally, if I go for the M2, I'd like to be able to say I have the willpower to wait until potentially LCI, but who knows.

I cannot wait until journalists get their hands on this car in the beginning of 2016. Should be fun to watch Chris Harris and Motortrend play with the M2.
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Production starts in feb? thats strange as my dealer in sweden said they are getting theirs in jan...also they are going on a trip next week to germany for education, mainly about the 7-series. However he thinks they will hint about the M2 aswell...
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Production starts in feb? thats strange as my dealer in sweden said they are getting theirs in jan...also they are going on a trip next week to germany for education, mainly about the 7-series. However he thinks they will hint about the M2 aswell...
Dealer demo (HEA) cars always get produced before customer sold cars. And you'll get different dates from every person/dealer you'll talk to at the moment.
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      09-18-2015, 04:27 PM   #163
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I sold my M3 sooner than anticipated which has been a bittersweet move. The M2 is the car I'm holding out for but the wait is tough! I'm toying with other cars as backup if if for some reason I don't pounce on the M2. I feel like there's a monkey on my back!
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I have been trying to find the MSRP of the new M2, in this and other threads, with no luck. So I attempted to calculate a range for the M2 base 6MT MSRP. I came up with 54-56k USD.

I got this figure considering the MSRP of the M3 - the MSRP of the 328i + the MSRP 228i - 3k fudge factor. Plus or minus 1k.

I give a 3k fudge factor by losing the CFR and going N55 vs. S55.

Also, limiting to only one interior, one wheel fitment 19", and only 4 colors I am assuming the price will remain lower than 56k for sure.
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I have been trying to find the MSRP of the new M2, in this and other threads, with no luck. So I attempted to calculate a range for the M2 base 6MT MSRP. I came up with 54-56k USD.

I got this figure considering the MSRP of the M3 - the MSRP of the 328i + the MSRP 228i - 3k fudge factor. Plus or minus 1k.

I give a 3k fudge factor by losing the CFR and going N55 vs. S55.

Also, limiting to only one interior, one wheel fitment 19", and only 4 colors I am assuming the price will remain lower than 56k for sure.
Man, you put a lot of thought in this effort!
You're too high. 52-53 base (6mt) max. IMO
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FWIW, my CA just called to let me know that his sales manager had just come back from California where, he was learning all about the new 7er and X7. The SM said that factory reps confirmed that production for the M2 will start in April.

I forgot to mention that they also said U.S. production would be limited to 600 cars in 2016 in order to keep demand high. I'm having a hard time believing it but who the hell knows what the truth is anymore.

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FWIW, my CA just called to let me know that his sales manager had just come back from California where, he was learning all about the new 7er and X7. The SM said that factory reps confirmed that production for the M2 will start in April.
US production I imagine ...
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      09-19-2015, 01:58 PM   #168
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I'll be in Miami before the end of the month for BMW's 7 Ultimate Ride & Drive and will attempt to gather as much M2 intel as I possibly can
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FWIW, my CA just called to let me know that his sales manager had just come back from California where, he was learning all about the new 7er and X7. The SM said that factory reps confirmed that production for the M2 will start in April.

I forgot to mention that they also said U.S. production would be limited to 600 cars in 2016 in order to keep demand high. I'm having a hard time believing it but who the hell knows what the truth is anymore.
My sources said the exact same number FYI.
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So basically 1 car per small dealer and two for the bigger ones... Congratulations everyone!
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      09-20-2015, 12:38 AM   #171
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So basically 1 car per small dealer and two for the bigger ones... Congratulations everyone!
This is about what most dealers were getting of the M235i.
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This is about what most dealers were getting of the M235i.
Per year?
There is a lot of speculation so until something is official I stopped caring really.
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This is about what most dealers were getting of the M235i.
Per year?
Not sure if there was a hard number, but every dealer I spoke with had either one or two coming in per month at first. Then euro delivery opened up. It's gonna be a tough first year.
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Wow, if 600 total are bound for the US in the first year, I'm suddenly not too comfortable with my number 2 spot at a small-ish dealer...
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FWIW, my CA just called to let me know that his sales manager .... said U.S. production would be limited to 600 cars in 2016 in order to keep demand high.
Reading between the lines, IMO, your CA is setting you up to charge you MSRP+. And his justification will be the "600 limit" thing - which, according to M division people, is BS. The "limited availability" fiction is a typical ruse employed by dealers to make it easier for their customers to swallow the MSRP+ pill.
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