04-27-2019, 08:32 AM | #1 |
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Flipping staggered setup
All - looking for insight regarding flipping staggered setup. I run mainly tracks that put a lot more wear on the left set of tires. What's the consensus regarding flipping wheels on the respective axels? I run directional tires (PS4s). I imagine there may be some minor impact to drive ability due to the tread design, but generally speaking I have to think the setup won't result in any safety issues that would result in tire failure.
When I rode moto, we used to flip directional tires with no issues. I expect same results with summer performance tires. Looking for insight from those that have tried this. Thanks! |
04-27-2019, 08:41 AM | #2 |
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My understanding is having directional tires rotating the right direction is purely for water evacuation, so no big deal to flip on dry track days.
Someone else prob has thoughts on this, tho. |
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04-27-2019, 08:55 AM | #3 |
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The PS4S is not a directional tire. It's asymmetric. I've not seen anyone flip an asymmetric tire inside out on the rim. On the Michelin asymmetric tires, I believe the compound is different across the face of the tire. Now if you are simply talking about rotating the wheel left to right, then that should be fine.
I've only flipped directional tires e.g., Hankook RS3/RS4, RE71Rs etc inside out in the rim. I've also run them backwards (rotate left to right) in the dry. Did not have any issues with either of those. |
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I’ve ran PSS, PS4S, RE-71R, R888R, and Trofeo R’s flipped on the axle in the dry and noticed no impacts to feel or time. Just helps with longevity. |
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04-27-2019, 12:03 PM | #7 |
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I’ve had RS-3 on my Mustang, and also flipped them. I did not notice any adverse effects on track. Bit sketchy in the rain, had to drive 50 in a 70 in heavy rain on the way home. But no big deal.
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04-30-2019, 08:17 AM | #8 |
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As long as your tread depth is good, outer wear, etc., it will not matter. A lot of people switch / rotate wheels around, including myself, especially the fronts - when I was running PSS / 4Ss.
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05-01-2019, 08:05 AM | #10 |
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Unfortunately, the RE-71Rs must be switched inside / outside on the wheels. They cannot be rotated like PSS / 4Ss. I normally have the RE-71Rs switched at 50% or so. They last longer as they lose some rubber, of course.
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To flip or not to flip (PS4s) on the rim? Both of my rear tires have significantly more thread left on the inside shoulder, so I am considering flipping them to get a weekend or more out of them. I expect that I would sacrifice some traction as the outside shoulder is tuned for dry track and flipping it would expose the part of the tire tuned for improved wet traction loading forces through corners, where maximum grip would be sacrificed. Has anyone run this configuration and have real world feedback? Thanks! |
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Running them front or back didn't make a difference to our lap times, just the tire life. These were RE71R's though... |
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Really? I don't think I've seen any "Inside"/"Outside" markings on the tires so how would the installer know if it's a left or right tire?
I've swapped RE71Rs around on the rims to get a bit more life out of them, and also run them backwards and didn't notice any adverse effects. |
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