[///Cardia]

Hey guys, I created a petition for the new M's not to have that ridiculous grille that the 4 series has. Please sign and send to all BMW Enthusiast that you know! ///M Power!

http://chng.it/5DbFrMGpGG

The point of the petition will show BMW (if enough signatures are gathered), that the M lineage actually matters. Changing the front fascia is actually a huge deal for true enthusiast.

If you don't care, so be it. Just providing the opportunity to those that do for their voice to be heard!

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by ///Cardia

Hey guys, I created a petition for the new M's not to have that ridiculous grille that the 4 series has. Please sign and send to all BMW Enthusiast that you know! ///M Power!

http://chng.it/5DbFrMGpGG

Petition won't help you for this generation. The refresh is probably already in the tank. Maybe you'll get lucky on the next gen and the grill will be a tiny slot.

[///Cardia]

Originally Posted by c1pher

Petition won't help you for this generation. The refresh is probably already in the tank. Maybe you'll get lucky on the next gen and the grill will be a tiny slot.

Understood, please sign if you can.

[TrevorM3]

dude, who cares? dont like it, dont buy it. so many automobiles to choose from.

[///Cardia]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

dude, who cares? dont like it, dont buy it. so many automobiles to choose from.

Don't like it, don't sign. That simple... It was created for enthusiast. Trust me, I'm not the minority.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by ///Cardia

Don't like it, don't sign. That simple... It was created for enthusiast. Trust me, I'm not the minority.

lol. you think bmw gives two shits about a few people who dont like grills?



I got news for ya buddy....

[///Cardia]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

lol. you think bmw gives two shits about a few people who dont like grills?



I got news for ya buddy....

I'm sure you're right. But it doesn't hurt providing a platform for the majority of us M enthusiast to be heard.

[Flying Ace]

The only power that we don't have, is the power to change the grill.

I have seriously considered not buying that generation of car simply due to the grill. However, Don't knock until you try it. This new grill was first implemented on the new X5 and X7. On these larger vehicles the styling works. It doesn't look fantastic but it looks good enough where I'm seriously considered buying a X7 M sport.

[///Cardia]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

The only power that we don't have, is the power to change the grill.

I have seriously considered not buying that generation of car simply due to the grill. However, Don't knock until you try it. This new grill was first implemented on the new X5 and X7. On these larger vehicles the styling works. It doesn't look fantastic but it looks good enough where I'm seriously considered buying a X7 M sport.

Thanks for the insight bro.

[MrOhnoez]

The day an unveiling is done, they typically begin to work on the next generation.
I welcome the new grills.
I don't however welcome the degradation of the hofmeister kink, or the L shaped headlights in the new M5 LCI.

I think some big vertical grills on a small bodied BMW will really remind me a bit of the 2002.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ///Cardia

Hey guys, I created a petition for the new M's not to have that ridiculous grille that the 4 series has. Please sign and send to all BMW Enthusiast that you know! ///M Power!
http://chng.it/5DbFrMGpGG

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's too late. The G82 M4 gets the controversial 'Beaver Grilles'. Way too costly for BMW to stop that wheel from turning. It was conceived that way - it will be born that way. Those design and development decisions were taken a long time ago. 'Start of communication' is scheduled for September.

From 'beemer' to 'beaver': dusted and done. To make it 'special'. For some explanation about that design element: see for example here.

Just cross your fingers that the M2 (G87) doesn't get beavered too. Let's wait and see whether BMW designers van Hooydonk and Dukec have 'special ideas' for it.

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's too late. The G82 M4 gets the controversial 'Beaver Grilles'. Way too costly for BMW to stop that wheel from turning. It was conceived that way - it will be born that way. Those design and development decisions were taken a long time ago. 'Start of communication' is scheduled for September.

From 'beemer' to 'beaver': dusted and done. To make it 'special'. For some explanation about that design element: see for example here.

Just cross your fingers that the M2 (G87) doesn't get beavered too. Let's wait and see whether BMW designers van Hooydonk and Dukec have 'special ideas' for it.

Isn't G87 going to have the same subframe shape (body) and headlight/taillights design as the G42 coupe?

From the leak picture (which is very legit), it's pretty much hopeless viewed thru my eye...

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

Isn't G87 going to have the same subframe shape (body) and headlight/taillights design as the G42 coupe?
From the leak picture (which is very legit), it's pretty much hopeless viewed thru my eye...

That would make sense.

It seems that the latest generation of BMW designers want each series to be more distinctive, rather than having too many similarities in the line-up. So I don't expect the G87 M2 design to be a downsized version of the G80 M3 or G82 M4. And fairly speaking, let them keep those presumptuous 'beaver grilles' for the M3/M4.

There used to be BMW designs that I instantly liked. For example, to my taste Hussein Al-Attar did a good job on the F87 M2. But personally not feeling the design turns BMW is taking with their latest new generation cars. As if they're trying too hard to be 'special'. Standing out: affirmative. Outstanding: negative.

[Davil]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Just cross your fingers that the M2 (G87) doesn't get beavered too. Let's wait and see whether BMW designers van Hooydonk and Dukec have 'special ideas' for it.

So, this evening I was flicking through the AutoBild YouTube channel on the YouTubes on my TV.

My 12 year old daughter happened to walk past the screen and I said "What do you think of this car?"

Her words. "It's horrible Daddy. It looks like Hitler crossed with a rat. Your one looks so much better."

Only from the mouths of children.

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by MrOhnoez

The day an unveiling is done, they typically begin to work on the next generation.
I welcome the new grills.
I don't however welcome the degradation of the hofmeister kink, or the L shaped headlights in the new M5 LCI.

I think some big vertical grills on a small bodied BMW will really remind me a bit of the 2002.

I think this is a good move since now all E82 1 series owners can now say their cars are no longer the ugliest BMWs.

[///Cardia]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's too late. The G82 M4 gets the controversial 'Beaver Grilles'. Way too costly for BMW to stop that wheel from turning. It was conceived that way - it will be born that way. Those design and development decisions were taken a long time ago. 'Start of communication' is scheduled for September.

From 'beemer' to 'beaver': dusted and done. To make it 'special'. For some explanation about that design element: see for example here.

Just cross your fingers that the M2 (G87) doesn't get beavered too. Let's wait and see whether BMW designers van Hooydonk and Dukec have 'special ideas' for it.

Completely understand the timeline and lineage, but thanks for the reminder.

Hoping to save the flagship model, M3!

Again, this was just a last ditch effort to allow a way for "true M owners" to voice our concern with the new front fascia.

If the new G80 grille does indeed match that outdated beaver look, keep your F80's!

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ///Cardia

Completely understand the timeline and lineage, but thanks for the reminder.
Hoping to save the flagship model, M3!
Again, this was just a last ditch effort to allow a way for "true M owners" to voice our concern with the new front fascia.
If the new G80 grille does indeed match that outdated beaver look, keep your F80's!

Both the G80 M3 and G82 M4 got 'beavered'.

Sorry.

February 2020 - BMW Welt (SOC = Start Of Communication) (source: here):

[///Cardia]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Both the G80 M3 and G82 M4 got 'beavered'.

Sorry.

February 2020 - BMW Welt (SOC = Start Of Communication) (source: here):
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Thanks Artemis

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by MrOhnoez

I welcome the new grills.

I think some big vertical grills on a small bodied BMW will really remind me a bit of the 2002.

The new M4 "Beaver" grills are atrocious and do nothing to remind me of the 2002. This major flub reminds me of the Porsche 996 "Scrambled egg" headlights which quickly disappeared. Change just for the sake of change usually equals something bad.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by MrOhnoez

The day an unveiling is done, they typically begin to work on the next generation.
I welcome the new grills.
I don't however welcome the degradation of the hofmeister kink, or the L shaped headlights in the new M5 LCI.
I think some big vertical grills on a small bodied BMW will really remind me a bit of the 2002.

Let me correct that for you:

Originally Posted by MrOhnoez

The day an unveiling is done, they typically begin to work on the next generation.
I welcome the new grills.
I don't however welcome the degradation of the hofmeister kink, or the L shaped headlights in the new M5 LCI.
I think some big vertical grills on a small bodied BMW will really remind me a bit of 2020.

[MZWIE]

Makes one wonder who approves such things.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's too late. The G82 M4 gets the controversial 'Beaver Grilles'. Way too costly for BMW to stop that wheel from turning. It was conceived that way - it will be born that way. Those design and development decisions were taken a long time ago. 'Start of communication' is scheduled for September.

From 'beemer' to 'beaver': dusted and done. To make it 'special'. For some explanation about that design element: see for example here.

Just cross your fingers that the M2 (G87) doesn't get beavered too. Let's wait and see whether BMW designers van Hooydonk and Dukec have 'special ideas' for it.

IF BMW screws up the new M2 I will keep my OG forever...