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Nitron elec-TRON
Been in development for a while now and getting close to being a reality! Once we have our test kits in hand we will dial them in to perfection just like we did with the R1 and R3 kits. So now all you who prefer to retain EDC will have an excellent option available!
Some other exciting options with their electronic kits are also in the works with more info to come soon! Will do a big reveal as the kits start to roll out but just wanted to throw this teaser out there. Last edited by OG Shark; 11-13-2023 at 05:29 PM.. |
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Thanks for the update. The more I think about the more I see why it can be better to do away with the EDC and just get a good matched spring and damper. As you mentioned they are using a non linear setup. As we discussed another time the non linear nature of the spring can add it's own problems on track. It will be interesting for sure to see if there is a non linear spring that's soft enough for a short duration to give the valve room to work, but then stiff enough in the main section to quickly catch transitions in suspension. I'm guessing all of that equates to a fixed amount of suspension travel and how each mm gets used.
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Funny. I thought I sent that post via private message. Yes, I've been giving lots of thought. Trying to wrap my head around exactly how you optimize an EDC to truly excel vs just be another mediocre jack of all. I think nonlinear and helper springs are the only way to take advantage but the non linear rates will be weird. Like soft for only a few mm and then firm up very quickly. Most DD on decent roads just needs to take the slide edge off small road imperfections (soft spring), while not allowing it to crash over larger imperfections (stiff spring with well controlled valve.
I wonder if you could have very little compression damping with a non linear spring that goes from soft to decently stiff rather quickly as long as the rebound is well controlled? Unfortunately on track where transitions are much more rapid the softer portion of the non linear spring seems like it would be a problem. I'm guessing this is where the ratios of compression and rebound in the EDC would do their thing. I find all of this shock tuning fascinating. I feel like I kinda understand, but know nothing at the same time. |
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Now what they had their with their 991.x Porsche kit is going to be more like what our R1 & R3's can do. This is their elec-TRON R3 kit: Again until I get my hands on the kit I will not know the range but I expect these to be the pretty spectacular. You have high and low speed adjustment knobs on the remote reservoirs and also connected to the (s)pasm (being Porsche in this case). We will be able to dial these in more closely to our traditional kits and expect to the perfomance to be at or approaching that level. The added cockpit control will be very nice to have too. These are coming down in the pipeline in Porsche first but BMW is closely following. They also showed this at SEMA: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KnHsl...?feature=share Their front axle lift system that works with the R1 & R3 kits and is also can be retrofit on existing kits! |
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I feel like there is going to be a feeling of significant lightness in my pocket at some point. Axle lift too (for BMW) or uses factory P car Axle lift? I feel like the Etron R3 is the type of overkill that speaks to me.
Watched the video. Stop it, let me know when I can buy. |
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I'm not even going to get into when Nitron has their own controller available in place of the factory option... |
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11-07-2023, 08:54 AM | #12 |
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Hmmm that lift kit… wonder if it will allow my safejacks to fit without first jacking onto some ramps for quick wheel swaps on track… I mean help my car clear my steep driveway.
Between their trick camber/caster plates… I don’t need my gt3/spyder anytime soon? |
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The lift kit, they told me, would be around an extra ~$1600ish, require installation of an external ~6 lbs-ish reservoir, comes with a hardwire button and remote to raise/lower, and would be about a 1" lift. Funny, they told me that no one's really asked them about the lift kit on a BMW before, but here in this thread, I see many thinking about it. But, yea, that camber/caster adjustable plate was also quite impressive looking. |
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Please don't be $15k. Please don't be $15k. PLEASE don't be $15k...
I just know I'm going to buy these. I'm already mentally preparing my justification to the wife. "Remember that time I didn't buy that 911, last year? K. Good deal."
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I don't have hard pricing on the the FAL kit yet but in the range they were talking about and combined with what I know the elec-TRON R3 will be priced at you should still come in well below 15k |
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Great! It's nice to see actual development on the older F8x chassis!
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