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      09-02-2020, 04:57 PM   #23
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Oh wow, that's a first I've heard of DWS from factory. I assumed we got the MPSS, or the Conti summers, but I think most got got the MPSS
That is what I thought too until I went to an HPDE at Mid Ohio last year thinking I had summer Conti's. Well... Not so much!
I think your dealer must have swapped the tires. I've never heard of an M car coming out of the factory with all-season tires.

With the exception to the M SUVs, me neither, unless it's a regional specific option 🤷🏻
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Yeah it might just be a crapshoot. My CA said she'd requested the Michelin's but she said they'll put "whatever" is available at time of build completion, lol.

Maybe I'll get some Chaoyang or Geostar tires.
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I think your dealer must have swapped the tires. I've never heard of an M car coming out of the factory with all-season tires.
It is odd.

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I think it depends on the market. There were no options when I ordered. Summer tires only. Michelins. I was surprised when I herd some cars came with Conti's?
I was as well.

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Just wow, never even heard of that. So weird. Maybe your location? Are you up North?
I'm In Ohio.

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That is bizarre. Did you ever ask the dealer? What year is your car, and did you order it yourself (or dealer did)? The only option BMW shows is mixed Performance, which is summer.
I didn't know to ask. I bought the car about 18 months ago from a non-BMW dealer with 3k miles. Frequent customer of theirs traded on a GT3, which he apparently does every 6 months or so.
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I think your dealer must have swapped the tires. I've never heard of an M car coming out of the factory with all-season tires.
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I think it depends on the market. There were no options when I ordered. Summer tires only. Michelins. I was surprised when I herd some cars came with Conti's?
I was as well.

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Just wow, never even heard of that. So weird. Maybe your location? Are you up North?
I'm In Ohio.

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That is bizarre. Did you ever ask the dealer? What year is your car, and did you order it yourself (or dealer did)? The only option BMW shows is mixed Performance, which is summer.
I didn't know to ask. I bought the car about 18 months ago from a non-BMW dealer with 3k miles. Frequent customer of theirs traded on a GT3, which he apparently does every 6 months or so.
That explains it. Clearly, they weren't the original tires.
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I have a 2021 M2C being built end of this month. I was under the assumption (without much research) that US spec M2C comes with MPSS for sure. No non-Michelins, but also no MPS4S. Am I wrong?
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I have a 2021 M2C being built end of this month. I was under the assumption (without much research) that US spec M2C comes with MPSS for sure. No non-Michelins, but also no MPS4S. Am I wrong?
I have not seen any M2C delivered with Continentals that I remember, but it may be possible for your M2C to be delivered with BMW spec Continental CSC3 tires as it has the same tires as the regular M2, which used Contis as second-source tires.

You are correct that you won't get PS4S as BMW has not created or qualified a version of that tire for any of the F8x cars. They basically never update a tire once a platform ships with it.
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I have a 2021 M2C being built end of this month. I was under the assumption (without much research) that US spec M2C comes with MPSS for sure. No non-Michelins, but also no MPS4S. Am I wrong?
All five 2020 M2Cs I viewed and test drove (some) from the dealers lot had MPSS on them, and the 2021 I bought also came with MPSS.
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      09-02-2020, 11:53 PM   #30
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This thread is somewhat confusing for me. To my fairly accurate knowledge (hell, I can always learn), there is no tire option for NA-bound M2Cs. All come with 245 front and 265 rear Michelin PSS. The online "button" that is shown in above thread just takes you to a generic BMW USA page that details the different tires available for non-M models. There is no option to actually change the tires on your order.

The reasons for the Michelin PSS instead of PS4S have been detailed elsewhere on the forum, but suffice it to summarize the car its "stuck" with these (outside the CUP 2 option on the CS) for the remainder of production. I do believe the PS4S is a better tire, but for a DD, it doesn't really matter.
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This thread is somewhat confusing for me. To my fairly accurate knowledge (hell, I can always learn), there is no tire option for NA-bound M2Cs. All come with 245 front and 265 rear Michelin PSS. The online "button" that is shown in above thread just takes you to a generic BMW USA page that details the different tires available for non-M models. There is no option to actually change the tires on your order.

The reasons for the Michelin PSS instead of PS4S have been detailed elsewhere on the forum, but suffice it to summarize the car its "stuck" with these (outside the CUP 2 option on the CS) for the remainder of production. I do believe the PS4S is a better tire, but for a DD, it doesn't really matter.
A very concise, and I believe accurate, summary!
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I just got a pic from the dealership and it looks like Michelin super sport (if I did have the choice to choose a tire I definitely skipped right over it).
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      09-03-2020, 06:49 PM   #33
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There is no tire choice. Just a wheel Choice folks.


All you have to do is look at the ordering guide.

whatever is available At the factory gets mounted
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These are not run flat tires right?
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These are not run flat tires right?
Nope.
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My M2C came with Michelin PSSs.
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Had a nail already and went to discount tire and they measured 8/32 nd for rears and 9/32nd for fronts, car has 450 miles, isn't that wear too aggressive for brand new tires? Have Michelin PSSs
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Had a nail already and went to discount tire and they measured 8/32 nd for rears and 9/32nd for fronts, car has 450 miles, isn't that wear too aggressive for brand new tires? Have Michelin PSSs
If I'm correct, 9/32 is the new tread depth. For you to lose 1/32 in only 450 miles, I'm suspecting either:

1) Measuring error by the shop
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2) Somebody was having fun and spun the rear tires a few times

I would expect 1/32" wear every 3,500 miles or so under normal driving (just a guess). I'm using an approximate of 22,000-25,000 mile life before it wears to the wear bars.
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If I'm correct, 9/32 is the new tread depth. For you to lose 1/32 in only 450 miles, I'm suspecting either:

1) Measuring error by the shop
or
2) Somebody was having fun and spun the rear tires a few times

I would expect 1/32" wear every 3,500 miles or so under normal driving (just a guess). I'm using an approximate of 22,000-25,000 mile life before it wears to the wear bars.
I measured yesterday , they were as below from outside to inside (innermost)

Front -- 10/32 , 9/32
Rear -- 9/32 , 8/32

Are people getting more than 20k out of MPSS?
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I measured yesterday , they were as below from outside to inside (innermost)

Front -- 10/32 , 9/32
Rear -- 9/32 , 8/32

Are people getting more than 20k out of MPSS?
I was under the impression that MPSS tires were closer to 15k mile tires.
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I measured yesterday , they were as below from outside to inside (innermost)

Front -- 10/32 , 9/32
Rear -- 9/32 , 8/32

Are people getting more than 20k out of MPSS?
I have a little over 30k miles on my M2C w/ original MPSS.
Plenty of tread left on the fronts, very close to the wear bar on the rears.
I think I’ll be able to squeeze in a couple of thousand miles before changing out the rears.
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I have a little over 30k miles on my M2C w/ original MPSS.
Plenty of tread left on the fronts, very close to the wear bar on the rears.
I think I’ll be able to squeeze in a couple of thousand miles before changing out the rears.
That is exceptional. I've gotten as little as 12k miles but usually 15k-18k from PSS. Although I do throw in the occasional track day or autocross.
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If I'm correct, 9/32 is the new tread depth. For you to lose 1/32 in only 450 miles, I'm suspecting either:

1) Measuring error by the shop
or
2) Somebody was having fun and spun the rear tires a few times

I would expect 1/32" wear every 3,500 miles or so under normal driving (just a guess). I'm using an approximate of 22,000-25,000 mile life before it wears to the wear bars.
I measured yesterday , they were as below from outside to inside (innermost)

Front -- 10/32 , 9/32
Rear -- 9/32 , 8/32

Are people getting more than 20k out of MPSS?
Depends on how you drive and your roads.

My rear tires are toast now at 15,000 miles. They really should have been replaced around 12,000-13,000 but I was hoping I could get a little more out of them. Getting new ones put on this weekend. They get really squirrely in the wet right now; no bueno!

...I'm not ginger with the throttle when conditions allow for it.
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My 3-week old '21 came with MPSS for what it's worth. I never had a choice otherwise as far as I know.
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