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Across the entire BMW lineup? 20% is just unrealistic. Most models don't even come with the manual option these days and those that do rarely come close to the 20% take rate. F32 430i - 3% F32 435i - 10% F32 435i xDrive - 17% F32 440i - 9% F32 440i xDrive - 19% F22 M240i - 34% |
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Like other members, I'm rather impressed with (and proud of) the MT take-up rate in North America! -scr |
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I think you can attribute a lot of the MT orders for the M2 to the magazine reviewers who seemed to almost unanimously emphasize thar the MT was the thing to get. I hadn't seen so much praise for manual trans for other car reviews.
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I guess now I know why I got into an argument with my partner, from taiwan, about my colour choice (BSM). LOL
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Just add up the totals for 1H91, 1H92 and 1H93 - that will give worldwide production.
Alternatively, check out post #12 in this thread where zenmaster already did this work. http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=12 |
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Interesting that the MY2016 transmission take rate for USA doesn't add up to 100% - 37.4% MT plus 48.8% DCT.
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great post and really interesting reading. Even though im a Brit im proud of the US for MT take up, hopefully this will mean BMW keep making manuals.
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Good catch, I made a mistake in the formula where I used US + Canada production number instead of just US. Thank you for pointing it out. I corrected the mistake. |
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Great Job!!! Thank you so much for doing this! This is a lot of work!! Ask me how I know! I can confirm this is accurate... I independently did the 2016 numbers for NA M2's and the numbers and data match! http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=25 |
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07-20-2017, 08:32 PM | #42 | |
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You'll be giving engine orders through either a six-speed manual, or, unlike the 1M, an optional dual-clutch gearbox; the latter likely to take 60% of sales.In an interview with Digital Trends (January 2017) BMW M CEO Frank Van Meel disclosed that manuals represent ± 20% of the M2 sales, which he considers to be "a lot" (source: here): Q: Do you think BMW M will continue to offer cars with manual transmissions ? How long term do you think that will remain an option ?As I commented in the past: though it may sound like a paradox, to me it's more accurate to say that M-DCT 'supply' is strong, rather than that 6MT 'demand' is poor. Customers are sometimes tempted to buy what's on display inside a showroom, rather than to wait a few weeks or months for a car they can spec themselves. I got the impression that most dealers seem to spec M-DCT for their showroom ///M cars. And that's a catalyst for the self-fulfilling prophecy that 'demand for manuals has decreased'. Expectations for the new 911 GT3 6MT: "It also gave chance to revisit discussion of the manual option with Andreas Preuninger. I start, cheekily, by reminding him that at the launch of the previous GT3 the PDK-only decision was pitched as a big improvement, largely on the basis of its faster lap times. "Well it is still faster on track," Preuninger says, "but lap times aren't everything, are they?" Preuninger stresses his ambition has always been to offer transmission choice - "like whether you take the ceramic brakes" - but limited development resources restricted what was possible. But he admits the PDK-only GT3 displeased some traditional buyers, with the huge popularity of the manual-only Cayman GT4 - and an increase in engineering resources - making the case. This was initially used in the 911 R, but the plan was always to spread the costs by offering it in the GT3 as well. Preuninger says he doesn't know how many people will opt for the manual - a zero-cost option tick in most territories - but reckons it could be as high as a third of production. "If it's less than 20 per cent then I'm in trouble," he admits."
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Really? I see blue ones EVERYWHERE!!! White, i have seen 3 local in @15 mile radius.
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Due to a mistake on my end, the original post had an inaccurate data for the RHD model. I was missing an additional 19 cars. All the affected charts were updated. I generally wait until about 3 months after the production end date when making these charts, but this time I jumped the gun and screwed up. Sorry about that.
P.S. I also added a chart showing M2 take rate per 1,000,000 people for a bunch of countries. |
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